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Old 02-18-2014, 10:49 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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The poor people are mostly in the sufolk county and the richest are in the nassaw county. In sufolk there are richest places like huntington and cold spring which is really rich and in nassaw there are poor places like hempstead. Theres in the middle [places like hicksville and other places like syosset too. Theres east in sofolk wich can mosty me farm people and then also into alsmost the city which is queens.

All I can say is, I'd avoid whatever school district this poster attended.
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Old 02-18-2014, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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All I can say is, I'd avoid whatever school district this poster attended.
Poster attended Special Ed - maybe s/he deserves a break
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Old 06-21-2014, 03:49 PM
 
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Just remember that money doesnt always equal class.

There are tons of places (especially on the south shore) that seem middle class on paper and technically are middle-income but they're really filled with obnoxious&ill-mannered trash (of all ages) as well as the Jersey Shore types and have ZERO remnants of class whatsoever.

I see a high prevalence if this in places like Deer Park, Valley Stream and Massapequa; though by no means am I saying this represents all of their residents.

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Old 06-22-2014, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Just remember that money doesnt always equal class.

There are tons of places (especially on the south shore) that seem middle class on paper and technically are middle-income but they're really filled with obnoxious&ill-mannered trash (of all ages) as well as the Jersey Shore types and have ZERO remnants of class whatsoever.

I see a high prevalence if this in places like Deer Park, Valley Stream and Massapequa; though by no means am I saying this represents all of their residents.
Where did you wind up moving?
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Old 06-22-2014, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Warren, OH
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Yes, I agree, his/her list is mostly accurate. His 2nd list is better since it was more specific. The only things that should be noted is that:

Hempstead Village isn't all low-income, there is Cathedral Gardens which is rich like Garden City; Hempstead's a pretty big city.. And Port Washington has some low-class spots (usually where "the help" lives) though of course it's mostly affluent.

I know he said "generally-speaking" but just thought i'd throw that in.

I don't know where you come up with the idea that Cathedral Gardens is rich like Garden City. Firstly they go to the Hempstead Schools which is quite poor. Cathedral Gardens is a small area in Hempstead just like Bellerose Village in the Floral Park area. Neither are "rich" like Garden City. People in both Cathedral Gardens and Bellerose Village would love to live in Garden City. I for one, when I owned in Bellerose Village wanted to trade up to Garden City, but thought better of it and bought in Stony Brook where actually the taxes made me move. Cathedral Gardens is a solidly middle class neighborhood period.
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Old 06-22-2014, 05:11 PM
 
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I don't know where you come up with the idea that Cathedral Gardens is rich like Garden City. Firstly they go to the Hempstead Schools which is quite poor. Cathedral Gardens is a small area in Hempstead just like Bellerose Village in the Floral Park area. Neither are "rich" like Garden City. People in both Cathedral Gardens and Bellerose Village would love to live in Garden City. I for one, when I owned in Bellerose Village wanted to trade up to Garden City, but thought better of it and bought in Stony Brook where actually the taxes made me move. Cathedral Gardens is a solidly middle class neighborhood period.
It looks very similar to Garden City. It's very clear that it's an upscale area since "solidly middle class" people don't live in massive homes on large estates, which comprises much of the housing stock in this neighborhood.

Plus, there's plenty of upscale places in poor school districts....such as a large chunk of Old Westbury, Amity Harbor, Bellport Village, etc, etc. Though I agree that school district is usually the primary determinate of desirability in suburbs, that doesn't mean that an area in a bad school district can't be upscale.

Nobody can provide data to prove it's upscale or not since the census tract of Cathedral Gardens is mixed in with the Terrace Ave area, which is one of the poorest area of LI. But anybody with common-sense knows that there's definitely some $$$ in the area; this is obvious.
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Old 06-22-2014, 06:05 PM
 
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Just remember that money doesnt always equal class.

There are tons of places (especially on the south shore) that seem middle class on paper and technically are middle-income but they're really filled with obnoxious&ill-mannered trash (of all ages) as well as the Jersey Shore types and have ZERO remnants of class whatsoever.

I see a high prevalence if this in places like Deer Park, Valley Stream and Massapequa; though by no means am I saying this represents all of their residents.
Money definitely doesn't equal class. I've never seen a more poorly behaved, obnoxious group iof children until I attended a party in Syosset.
Every neighborhood has it's crap no matter where you go.
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Old 06-22-2014, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Warren, OH
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It looks very similar to Garden City. It's very clear that it's an upscale area since "solidly middle class" people don't live in massive homes on large estates, which comprises much of the housing stock in this neighborhood.

Plus, there's plenty of upscale places in poor school districts....such as a large chunk of Old Westbury, Amity Harbor, Bellport Village, etc, etc. Though I agree that school district is usually the primary determinate of desirability in suburbs, that doesn't mean that an area in a bad school district can't be upscale.

Nobody can provide data to prove it's upscale or not since the census tract of Cathedral Gardens is mixed in with the Terrace Ave area, which is one of the poorest area of LI. But anybody with common-sense knows that there's definitely some $$$ in the area; this is obvious.


I actually made a mistake. Bellerose Village and Cathedral Gardens are not a like. Bellerose Village is bordered by Bellerose Terrace and Floral Park, both middle class. The High School is Floral Park Memorial which is safe and a little above average. Although Cathedral Gardens borders Garden City, it also borders Terrace Ave, which is one of the most dangerous areas in Hempstead, let alone Long island. I was a Private Eye for 20 years and had many an investigation around Terrace Ave and no one should ever be there not carrying. Bellerose Village has a quaint L.I.R.R. station and Cathedral Gardens has to use Hempstead station. Actually before I bought my home in B.V. I also looked into Cathedral Gardens. I did a thorough search and after weighing the pros and cons, Bellerose Village won hands down.
I am quite familiar with both areas since I grew up in Elmont in the 70's. I had friends from Cathedral Gardens and they were no better off than my family. In thirty to forty years, I don't think Cathedral Gardens would go from middle class to "Rich". Sorry Cathedral Gardens is not wealthy.
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Old 06-23-2014, 05:57 AM
 
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Default Why does Shirley get a bad reputation?

Thanks for the list.

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Old 06-23-2014, 07:22 AM
 
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Sands Point, Laurel Hollow and Cold Spring Harbor are not even on the list. There are three of the richest towns.
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