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Based solely on my subjective opinion I believe the "Tax Cap" has effectively reduced the 'no' votes and contributed to the enormous school budget passing rate (98%) on LI as well as the individual passing margins this year. Both, apparently, were record setting state-wide. I am not entirely sure this was the goal of those who wanted a "Tax Cap". Those very few districts who pierced the cap were voted down. The message to the districts: Stay within the cap and your district budget passes easily.
Are you saying that teachers love some of what the government does and dislike some of what the government does?
No, not as broad as that. When you accept state legislation that protects your salary and job at the expense of others it is hypocritical to argue that the state should have NO say in how your job performance is measured and distributed to those paying your salary.
Originally Posted by kmrlongisland One thing I love about teachers, I have two in my family, is their hypocrisy - they don't want the government suggesting curriculum modifications (Common Core) but they sure as hell love having the government protect their union contracts.
Originally Posted by Quick Commenter Are you saying that teachers love some of what the government does and dislike some of what the government does?
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Originally Posted by kmrlongisland
No, not as broad as that. When you accept state legislation that protects your salary and job at the expense of others it is hypocritical to argue that the state should have NO say in how your job performance is measured and distributed to those paying your salary.
I had no idea common core was related to measuring job performance. Got it.
And can your relatives reject this state legislation? If they rejected the legislation and rejected this common core evaluation system you note and accepted some other evaluation system not from the state then that would at least be consistent and not hypocritical I guess.
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I don't understand something that seems to be a common theme on this thread. Where are there teachers on LI making "close to 6 figures"? Also, what do you suggest we pay our teachers? They have to live on LI, too.
I'm not a teacher and I'm not saying there isn't a budget issue, but people who complain that teachers make too much money - I don't get it. If they live here on LI like the rest of us, how much should we pay them? They're not living in mansions on their teachers' salaries, are they?
So you think every single person who lives on Long Island should make 6 figures? Your argument makes no sense. Most teachers, let's face it, are women. They are a second salary.
One of my kids' teachers was married to a cop. I don't even want to tell you about the lifestyle those two led. Another did BUILD a "mansion" in Garden City. Nepotism runs rampant. Cadillac benefits for life.
Educate yourself.
A couple weeks ago I was ridiculed (by an ex-pat civil servant) for stating that the vast majority of people on Long Island don't have any idea what they are paying for - and here we have our very own CD poster proving my point.
So you think every single person who lives on Long Island should make 6 figures? Your argument makes no sense. Most teachers, let's face it, are women. They are a second salary.
Maybe women should be paid less than men since it is 'mostly' a second salary. Except, of course, women who are single/divorced because then it is a primary salary. And a women who is separated but not divorced could make something in between depending on how many children (if any) are involved. And a woman who is married but is the sole provider could earn more than single women with or without dependent children.
Maybe women should be paid less than men since it is 'mostly' a second salary. Except, of course, women who are single/divorced because then it is a primary salary. And a women who is separated but not divorced could make something in between depending on how many children (if any) are involved. And a woman who is married but is the sole provider could earn more than single women with or without dependent children.
Are you people for real
What is this 1940's? Do you guys remember the Equal pay act of 1963? or Title VII of the civil rights act of 1964
So you think every single person who lives on Long Island should make 6 figures? Your argument makes no sense. Most teachers, let's face it, are women. They are a second salary.
One of my kids' teachers was married to a cop. I don't even want to tell you about the lifestyle those two led. Another did BUILD a "mansion" in Garden City. Nepotism runs rampant. Cadillac benefits for life.
Educate yourself.
A couple weeks ago I was ridiculed (by an ex-pat civil servant) for stating that the vast majority of people on Long Island don't have any idea what they are paying for - and here we have our very own CD poster proving my point.
No way can you afford anything close to a mansion in Garden City on teacher/cop salaries. Obviously, there was money from another source- inheritance, side jobs, something illegal, who knows. Most teachers/cops do live comfortable middle class lifestyles- but if they are living crazy extravagantly there is something else going on.
No way can you afford anything close to a mansion in Garden City on teacher/cop salaries. Obviously, there was money from another source- inheritance, side jobs, something illegal, who knows. Most teachers/cops do live comfortable middle class lifestyles- but if they are living crazy extravagantly there is something else going on.
You keep telling yourself that. This teacher makes well into the 100Ks on her second income - no worries about saving for retirement or paying for healthcare - for her or her spouse. And she got her newly minted college graduate a job in the district. Amazing how that happened.
You keep telling yourself that. This teacher makes well into the 100Ks on her second income - no worries about saving for retirement or paying for healthcare - for her or her spouse. And she got her newly minted college graduate a job in the district. Amazing how that happened.
Whether or not you think she deserves to be paid $100k++ isn't the issue at all. The issue is that $100k doesn't buy you an extravagant lifestyle on Long Island.
No way can you afford anything close to a mansion in Garden City on teacher/cop salaries. Obviously, there was money from another source- inheritance, side jobs, something illegal, who knows. Most teachers/cops do live comfortable middle class lifestyles- but if they are living crazy extravagantly there is something else going on.
I have family that live in *close* to a mansion on civil service salaries. In Garden City. No inheritance. Just know how to milk the OT.
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