Originally Posted by Manigault
I find the recent posts odd. There are many types of government asisstance including unemployment insurance, social security and loans to business about to go under. People don't call those folks beggars. Maybe the town should be called a beggar because it lined up for federal funds?
But the issue is not the quality of folks who are apply for Section 8 -- the issue is if a town can pretty clearly practice racial discrimination. Even a beggar deserves a better break than that.
A person will work for an employer and the employer pays employment insurance based upon payroll. Employers are funding UI. I have to file my payments to NYS on a quarterly basis. Employers who have more lay-offs (and thus more former employees claiming) pay a higher percentage than those who do not.
Unemployment is NOT government assistance, it is a form of insurance i.e. Unemployment Insurance http://www.labor.state.ny.us/ui/ui_index.shtm
Someone receiving unemployment benefits while legitimately looking for new work is not a beggar by any means. Someone sitting on their tush not trying to find skill appropriate work and collecting for the maximum number of weeks is milking the system.
Social Security is funded by employees -- it is deducted from their paychecks. In order for a person to claim SS benefits, they must meet certain prescribed criteria. There are instances where people are elligible without meeting the necessary requirements, and that is upsetting to the people who have put in many years and are witnessing the age at which they can collect increase while their benefit amount decreases.
The government has a hand in administering the benefits and making a big, muddled mess of the system. However the government is not putting the money in, the workers are. This is not government assistance.
Some foolish individuals are counting on SS retirement as a pension and not putting away money. These individuals will be the ones seeking federal handouts when the money dries up. When the Social Security money dries up, these people will be seeking Government Assistance.
If the government provides a loan to a small business -- whether or not it is to start up or to save it from going under, that loan is expected to be repaid. Should all loans be considered assistance?
Are the Section 8, welfare, food stamps, and whatever other taxpayer subsidized programs (aka assistance) recipients required to repay their benefits like any of us would be expected to repay a loan? (Asking in all seriousness -- I am not familiar with the 'strings' and 'fine print' within he programs.)
Personally, I feel that programs like Habitat for Humanity are wonderful as they give people of limited resources a shot at the American Dream...the teach a man to fish adage. If there is a community that has fallen on hard times and people are coming in to build new homes and have a vested interest in the community and the schools, that is where one is going to see a turn around and a community that is going to become desirable to people with each improvement.
If a person is Section 8, they should get first crack at H4H homes. If they decline the opportunity without a very good reason, they should lose their Section 8 eligibility. Here are people who could be pioneers, who could be given a fresh new start, who deserve a chance at a home in an area that they can afford. They can help to take back communities and be a catalyst for change. I don't care what color the person is -- motivation is what I respect.
Someone on the board wrote that the biggest problem is the slumlords -- and in Huntington, the biggest slumlord is one of the biggest Section 8 landlords. I couldn't afford to live next to him -- he has a big, gated estate property in Old Field on the water. If a town were to enact a law as to the number of 'investment' properties an absentee landlord could own within a town, that might be create a sea change for a neighborhood. But it is probably illegal to do such -- or at least any proposed change could be vigorously fought by a fat cat slumlord.