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Old 08-02-2017, 07:52 AM
 
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Where is the data that any water in the distribution system was ever found to exceed standards for contamination? Where is the information that any of the contaminants were found in the aquifer?
A look back at Grumman contamination on Long Island - Newsday

2012: "The following year, radium surfaces as a possible issue when the Bethpage Water District shuts down a drinking water well off Sophia Street, where it detected elevated levels of the element."

"That same year Hempstead Town sues the Navy, Northrop Grumman, operators of a former dry cleaner and others in federal court for a minimum of $50 million over groundwater contamination that forced the closure of water wells in Levittown."

"In 2017, elevated levels of radium are found in groundwater samples from shallow monitoring wells on the Bethpage High School campus."

"But a few years later, by the late 1940s, wells on Grumman property were tainted. Chromium contamination was discovered in groundwater south of Grumman site in 1949."

"Concerns about contamination continue, as several Grumman wells test positive for volatile organic chemicals. In the late 1970s, Grumman is hooked up to Bethpage Water district water because of contamination issues."

https://pubs.usgs.gov/wri/1990/4182/report.pdf

Pg 17 you'll see they found elevated inorganic inexplicable compounds in the Magothy aquifer and questionable chemicals in the Upper Glacial aquifer as far back as 1992 in the industrial area ie: Grumman/Bethpage.

There ya go.

As for Chromium contamination, that is the same thing Erin Brockovich movie was about in Cali. Seems they had little problem convincing a judge and jury that it was directly responsible for people's health issues. So that precedent is solidly set in law and Grumman and the Navy know it. That is why they are fighting tooth and nail. It is not because it's a libbie witch hunt. It's cause we pay beaucoup taxes to live on top of a govt sanctioned poisoned well we need to drink from and these clowns lie about what really happened to avoid responsibility for fixing it.

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Old 08-02-2017, 07:53 AM
 
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Why are you focused just on drinking water?

If radioactive material was used in the area, and there's radioactivity still today, it doesn't need water to get to your body.

Science frequently says "more research is needed". This seems to be the case.
A person living in a possible radioactive area would choose to wait there for tests to be done?
I don't think so.

Science is great, but slow when there's nobody profiting.
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Old 08-02-2017, 07:55 AM
 
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You are correct that I am looking for a documented link. I also would have no problem living above the plume with the information we have today; no one is pumping water from the plume into anyone's kitchen sink. No one is even watering their lawn with it. How is it that you are convinced those chemicals are coming into contact, internally or externally, with anyone in the area? We have all seen people die from all manners of sickness and disease which proves absolutely nothing pertinent to this discussion. It seems as if you are not "taking it on faith" but on fear.
Yeah, call me crazy but I fear poison in the water...but that's just me!
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Old 08-02-2017, 08:55 AM
 
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Even from a resale standpoint it doesn't make sense.
Toxic presence or proof aside, the above alone should keep people away from buying there. There are other towns similar to it without the threat, rumors, and whisperings. If you have a choice right now, why would you purposely go there?
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Old 08-02-2017, 01:27 PM
 
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A look back at Grumman contamination on Long Island - Newsday

2012: "The following year, radium surfaces as a possible issue when the Bethpage Water District shuts down a drinking water well off Sophia Street, where it detected elevated levels of the element."

"That same year Hempstead Town sues the Navy, Northrop Grumman, operators of a former dry cleaner and others in federal court for a minimum of $50 million over groundwater contamination that forced the closure of water wells in Levittown."

"In 2017, elevated levels of radium are found in groundwater samples from shallow monitoring wells on the Bethpage High School campus."

"But a few years later, by the late 1940s, wells on Grumman property were tainted. Chromium contamination was discovered in groundwater south of Grumman site in 1949."

"Concerns about contamination continue, as several Grumman wells test positive for volatile organic chemicals. In the late 1970s, Grumman is hooked up to Bethpage Water district water because of contamination issues."

https://pubs.usgs.gov/wri/1990/4182/report.pdf

Pg 17 you'll see they found elevated inorganic inexplicable compounds in the Magothy aquifer and questionable chemicals in the Upper Glacial aquifer as far back as 1992 in the industrial area ie: Grumman/Bethpage.

There ya go.

As for Chromium contamination, that is the same thing Erin Brockovich movie was about in Cali. Seems they had little problem convincing a judge and jury that it was directly responsible for people's health issues. So that precedent is solidly set in law and Grumman and the Navy know it. That is why they are fighting tooth and nail. It is not because it's a libbie witch hunt. It's cause we pay beaucoup taxes to live on top of a govt sanctioned poisoned well we need to drink from and these clowns lie about what really happened to avoid responsibility for fixing it.
In each of your scenarios it is confirmed the wells were shut down rather than allow the tainted water into the distribution system. Your final paragraph is a perfect example of how someone takes irrelevant information and conflates it to fit an entirely different situation.
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Old 08-02-2017, 02:54 PM
 
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I wouldn't live there or any of those towns south of the direction that plume is traveling. But hey that's just me.
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Old 08-02-2017, 04:18 PM
 
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Is Bethpage so desirable that this plume has no impact on home values?

This is a serious question- I am not familiar with the area. The housing inventory generally looks like splits, raised ranches and capes. Very similar to many south shore villages. So I'm curious what the draw is.
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Old 08-03-2017, 06:15 AM
 
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Is Bethpage so desirable that this plume has no impact on home values?

This is a serious question- I am not familiar with the area. The housing inventory generally looks like splits, raised ranches and capes. Very similar to many south shore villages. So I'm curious what the draw is.
The school district.
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:03 AM
 
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In each of your scenarios it is confirmed the wells were shut down rather than allow the tainted water into the distribution system. Your final paragraph is a perfect example of how someone takes irrelevant information and conflates it to fit an entirely different situation.
And your reply explains how one can waste one's time posting links and evidence and someone with a closed minded , contrarian slant can just mis-read them (or NOT read, since Chromium was clearly discussed in the article) and discount them cause they feel like. The wells were shut AFTER the tainted water was discovered...ie PEOPLE WERE DRINKING IT FOR YEARS. Oy vay.

The articles I posted directly answered your questions. You don't have to like it or agree.

Frankly, I don't care either way. Just one more LI'ism we have our head in the sand about.
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:07 AM
 
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Is Bethpage so desirable that this plume has no impact on home values?

This is a serious question- I am not familiar with the area. The housing inventory generally looks like splits, raised ranches and capes. Very similar to many south shore villages. So I'm curious what the draw is.
School district, location, decent homes under $500k.
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