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If I recall this vote was actually AFTER the Lighthouse project was blocked by TOH. I was completely for the Lighthouse plan which used private money. The $400m vote was a hail mary pass by Nassau County and many including myself who were for Ratner and Wang developing a big fancy mess with their own money were completely against giving inept Mangano $400m of taxpayer money to essentially slap a coat of paint on the current Mausoleum without even retaining the Islanders. Two different situations altogether.
You're right, there were, generally speaking, 2 projects, the 1st 1 wasn't voted on & the 2nd 1 wasn't passed. This article sums it up this way:
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... it is another frustrating case of a small, highly visible not in my backyard (NIMBY) movement in suburbia on one hand, and, on the other, an unwanted development foisted upon urban residents without due process through eminent domain.
I really don't know where you're coming from here? Perhaps you don't know where I'm coming from either?
I didn't claim your earlier post was a sound byte? & I didn't claim you, personally, have a contemptuous & persistent disdain for any kind of change.
In your earlier post you said:
Maybe it's true "what I want and what you want are 2 different things." How would I know? Maybe you want whatever Charles Wang wants? How would I know?
Personally I'd like to hear your ideas, what are they?
In general, LI has to move on from the single home model and people say they are OK with this, as long as it occurs some other town miles down the road, but not in their back yard. High density housing breeds crime.
It's the same argument used against opposition to light rail in other areas of the country - "It's a commuter system for criminals into my area".
It might be a 'done deal' as far as the Islanders are concerned, they're still geographically on LI ...
Although personally, I think the OP is still relevant, Long Island ... where do we go from here?
More apartments, condos, etc... to keep young crowd on the Island. More ow rise business buildings to provide inexpensive office space so may a business district can develop or grow which would increase the tax base, which would provide more than low paying retail sales jobs. This is how the growing areas outside of LI are doing it. It doesn't have to be a mega suburb like Tyson's Corners, VA, but somewhere in between. Clearly giving businesses an alternative to locating in DC proper has drawn a lot of businesses there.
Yeah, because anything west of NYC is a hick town. How provincial of you.
Hah! I agree many NYers (including me) are provincial, although the reason for pointing to the Dueling Banjos scene from Deliverance was more in response to the O Brother Where Art Thou reference. Music was important in both films. I can't hear Dueling Banjos without thinking about that scene. & I can't see that scene in my mind without thinking about the part at the end of the song when the young boy recoils from the offer of a handshake. Both movies are classics in a sense but this isn't the place to share insights about movies, is it? Music is a very powerful influence.
In general, LI has to move on from the single home model and people say they are OK with this, as long as it occurs some other town miles down the road, but not in their back yard. High density housing breeds crime.
It's the same argument used against opposition to light rail in other areas of the country - "It's a commuter system for criminals into my area".
Quite a few folks in the the LI forum have pointed to the NIMBYism factor. & I agree this factor plays a role in other parts of this Country as well.
More apartments, condos, etc... to keep young crowd on the Island. More ow rise business buildings to provide inexpensive office space so may a business district can develop or grow which would increase the tax base, which would provide more than low paying retail sales jobs. This is how the growing areas outside of LI are doing it. It doesn't have to be a mega suburb like Tyson's Corners, VA, but somewhere in between. Clearly giving businesses an alternative to locating in DC proper has drawn a lot of businesses there.
I think having a Plan & using rational persuasion would be helpful.
Come to think of it, now that the Islanders are a 'done deal' & have moved on to Brooklyn, why not consider a new 'Lighthouse Project'? Perhaps with the music industry as advocates & business partners?
Come to think of it, now that the Islanders are a 'done deal' & have moved on to Brooklyn, why not consider a new 'Lighthouse Project'? Perhaps with the music industry as advocates & business partners?
After that catastrophe, no private business would attempt a project like the Lighthouse Project here. The nimbys and the local criminal cabal running NC would drain them of time and money.
I think they should give that building away to an out of state company on the condition they bring high quality jobs here for x/x amount of years. The company would pay full taxes on the real estate.
After that catastrophe, no private business would attempt a project like the Lighthouse Project here. The nimbys and the local criminal cabal running NC would drain them of time and money.
I think they should give that building away to an out of state company on the condition they bring high quality jobs here for x/x amount of years. The company would pay full taxes on the real estate.
How about creating a film or TV production complex? C'mon LI has more than enough drama queens!
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When director Marc Webb spoke to the big crowd at the premiere of "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" here, he didn't open by saluting the cast or welcoming the colorfully dressed fans at the Ziegfeld Theatre.
Instead, he gave thanks — to New York.
"We shot this all in New York, which is a great place to shoot a movie," Webb told onlookers, including delegates from the New York City Mayor's Office of Media and Entertainment. "I highly recommend it if you get the chance."
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