Nassau to ‘thaw’ assessments County plans - to revalue properties for 2019-20 (credit, neighborhoods)
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It really needs to be done correctly. And that means actual visits.....not drive-bys.
And yes........all those illegal modifications will be caught.
But in the end........there's equalization amongst all properties.
I get the full re-eval every three years.......the two interim years are statiscal updates only.
I know of two identical houses on the North Shore. They look exactly the same from the outside. Identical sized lots. Even the house color is the same. But..........one shines like a diamond inside........the other looks like the interior of a frat house.........both have same assessments. Is that fair? Of course not.
But is it fair to punish someone with higher taxes because the inside of their home is nicer.
Odd part is some of my neighbors did junky or no fixes after Sandy. One neighbor never fixed lawn, sprinklers broke and electric wires sticking up, the deck saltwater took off paint and house smells a bit from mold.
Next door neighbor fully insured to max dropped 200K into making house look like a show piece after sandy.
The system now values them the same which is unfair. But if they value the nice house at much higher is that fair either as other gets rewarded for keeping house looking like junk. There is no easy answer.
When they ever get around to doing it there will be some big time shock in Garden City and RVC as some of those houses are way way underassessed.
It really needs to be done correctly. And that means actual visits.....not drive-bys.
And yes........all those illegal modifications will be caught.
But in the end........there's equalization amongst all properties.
I get the full re-eval every three years.......the two interim years are statiscal updates only.
I know of two identical houses on the North Shore. They look exactly the same from the outside. Identical sized lots. Even the house color is the same. But..........one shines like a diamond inside........the other looks like the interior of a frat house.........both have same assessments. Is that fair? Of course not.
Talk about unfair. Those two "identical" houses should have "identical" taxes. I don't believe anyone should be punished for beautifying the inside of their home. No one should be rewarded for living like slobs...at their neighbor's expense. Enough of this market value mumbo jumbo and tax by lot size, sq footage and livable space. That would be too easy of course....and wouldn't allow for the never ending school tax increases. Although most people would be thrilled to know the 2.5% cap actually MEANT a 2.5% cap for them!
But is it fair to punish someone with higher taxes because the inside of their home is nicer.
Odd part is some of my neighbors did junky or no fixes after Sandy. One neighbor never fixed lawn, sprinklers broke and electric wires sticking up, the deck saltwater took off paint and house smells a bit from mold.
Next door neighbor fully insured to max dropped 200K into making house look like a show piece after sandy.
The system now values them the same which is unfair. But if they value the nice house at much higher is that fair either as other gets rewarded for keeping house looking like junk. There is no easy answer.
When they ever get around to doing it there will be some big time shock in Garden City and RVC as some of those houses are way way underassessed.
Part of assessing a property involves quality of .. let's call them ins and outs. Assessing also includes depreciation. It also includes replacement costs.
You have to have equalization throughout the entire county.
I'll see if I can't post a proper assessment card which shows an assessment properly done. I don't know if it'll copy or not.
Of course. I know people here that have grieved their taxes and it's a lot less complicated than Long Island. I grieve (and win) on my car tax every year and since I didn't pay tax when I bought the car it works out even more in my favor.
I know of two identical houses on the North Shore. They look exactly the same from the outside. Identical sized lots. Even the house color is the same. But..........one shines like a diamond inside........the other looks like the interior of a frat house.........both have same assessments. Is that fair? Of course not.
Why should someone who buys a $20k chandelier have to pay more property taxes? In terms of paying their fair share to the town, I think livable sqft, lot size, and age of home is all that should matter. It's easily accessible information and doesn't require more man-power. We need to look at the big picture of the goal here.
What's fair is normalizing everything again after all the grievances (myself included).
COUNTY 6/12/2015 12:28:50 PM
Return/Appeal Notes: Parcel: 238B-A-032
PLAT: / UNIQ ID 110393
37055500 ID NO: 300609264862
COUNTY (100), HOSP TAX (100), PORT (100), FIRE (300) CARD NO. 1 of 1
Reval Year: 2015 Tax Year: 2015 L-32 PH-1 THE LANDING PLAT 19/522 1.000 LT SRC=
Appraised by A2 on 02/02/2011 404A - THE LANDING TW-03 CI-21 FR-14 EX- AT- LAST ACTION 20150202
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Foundation - 4
Con Ftg/Crawl 5.00
Sub Floor System - 4
Plywd/Ptl bd 8.00
Exterior Walls - 19
Hardy Plank 32.00
Roofing Structure - 03
Gable 7.00
Roofing Cover - 06
Arch Shingle 5.00
Interior Wall Construction - 6
Custom Interior 35.00
Interior Floor Cover - 12
Hardwood 10.00
Interior Floor Cover - 14
Carpet 0.00
Heating Fuel - 03
Gas 1.00
Heating Type - 09
Heat Pump Only 4.00
Air Conditioning Type - 03
Central 4.00
Bedrooms/Bathrooms/Half-Bathrooms
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Bedrooms
BAS - 3 FUS - 0 LL - 0 _
Bathrooms
BAS - 4 FUS - 0 LL - 0 _
Half-Bathrooms
BAS - 0 FUS - 0 LL - 0 _
Office
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Market/Design 5 1.0600
Size Size Size 0.9500
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USE MOD Eff. Area QUAL BASE RATE RCN EYB AYB
Standard 0.05000
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01 01 4,082 141 112.80 462429 2010 2004 % GOOD 95.0
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TYPE: SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SFR CONSTRUCTION
STYLE: 2 - 1.5 Stories
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MARKET LAND VALUE - CARD 68,000
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TOTAL APPRAISED VALUE - CARD 509,840
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TOTAL PRESENT USE VALUE - PARCEL 0
TOTAL VALUE DEFERRED - PARCEL 0
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PRIOR
BUILDING VALUE 354,340
OBXF VALUE 2,986
LAND VALUE 90,000
PRESENT USE VALUE 0
DEFERRED VALUE 0
TOTAL VALUE 447,326
PERMIT
CODE DATE NOTE NUMBER AMOUNT
ROUT: WTRSHD:
SALES DATA
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BOOK PAGE MO YR
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VALUE REDUCED PER 2010
E&R.
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FGD 672 050 37901
FOP 580 030 19627
FSP 224 035 8798
FUS 1,783 090 181044
WDD 240 020 5414
FIREPLACE 7 - Prefab 1,980
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22 CONCRETE PAVING 0 0 1,260 3.00 0 1 2004 2004 S3 67 2533
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LAND INFORMATION
HIGHEST AND BEST USE USE CODE LOCAL ZONING FRON TAGE DEPTH DEPTH / SIZE LND MOD COND FACT OTHER ADJUSTMENTS AND NOTES
RF AC LC TO OT ROAD
TYPE LAND UNIT PRICE TOTAL LAND UNITS UNT TYP TOTAL ADJST ADJUSTED UNIT PRICE LAND VALUE OVERRIDE VALUE LAND NOTES
SFR 0100 PUD 0 0 1.0000 0 1.0000 PS 68,000.00 1.000 LT 1.000 68,000.00 68000 0
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TOTAL PRESENT USE DATA
Why should someone who buys a $20k chandelier have to pay more property taxes? In terms of paying their fair share to the town, I think livable sqft, lot size, and age of home is all that should matter. It's easily accessible information and doesn't require more man-power. We need to look at the big picture of the goal here.
What's fair is normalizing everything again after all the grievances (myself included).
But age of home is very flawed. Many "new" construction near me was thrown up between 1999 and 2006 when housing was hot. Usually cheaper builder/flipper quality.
Yet they pay very high taxes compared to a 1940s home of same size that was fully restored.
My particular house was damaged in Sandy. I got assessor to come out and check it out and got a fairly big reduction.
Based on comps alone I will get screwed in reassessment as fully renovated homes are going for a big mark up but ones like mine rarely sell in a fair market transaction. Foreclosures/Short/Estate sales usually dont count and that is majority of sandy damaged homes.
Since folks rarely file for permits hard to tell renovated houses from not renovated houses and even places like GC or RVC older houses are turned into showpieces without a permit pay low taxes as it is based on age alone.
The real solution is towns should assess homes not Nassau. A small town lets say Point Lookout knows exactly what homes are worth. Nassau just throws it into a big data base
Or they file for permits but it becomes such a hassle to get the CO that people don't do it and never get re- assessed. This is particularly true in a village like GC where the permits are open- ended ... No expiration date.
^ yes not filing for permits throws a wrench into the idea but who is making a big sqft addition and getting away with it? They do aerial comparisons do they not? Same goes for age of home where you'd have to do a significant amount of work under the radar. Even if you renovate to new INSIDE, that is for the owner to enjoy and I don't care about taxing them higher. Age of home is aimed more at new construction.
You want people to improve on their aging properties. By normalizing (tossing out grievance figures and making it fair relative to each property), maybe some people will end up paying slightly more (even a 1100sf ranch will sell for more than the $300k they're assessed at) while those paying more now won't see a big increase as predicted. Those who put in permits to improve may not get increased as much as they do now (ie. $20k taxes for new construction).
Guess moral of story is to grieve every year in Nassau regardless of what they say they are doing.
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