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Old 06-28-2015, 04:11 PM
 
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I do not understand how a white man killing 9 black people means take down the flags, stop selling the flags, and ban the movie Gone With the Wind.
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Old 06-28-2015, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Suffolk
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Just the usual kneejerk reaction whenever anything bad happens. Give it a few months and people will move on to the next issue.
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Old 06-28-2015, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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Maybe this unfortunate situation has become the final catalyst to removing the flag from government properties.
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Old 06-28-2015, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD / NY
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The design of many of the iterations of this flag, were imbued with racist, supremacist tones. This implicit association, to me, is enough to disassociate from the flag, regardless of the intention, history, or motivation. Particularly in light of the tragic events that recently occurred in South Carolina. Personally, I believe there are better, educational ways to honor historically significant events and actions of the South, than place focus and use on a flag that comes with an undeniable mixed message.

Flag Designer, William Thompson (1860s):

"As a people we are fighting maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause."

"As a national emblem, it is significant of our higher cause, the cause of a superior race, and a higher civilization contending against ignorance, infidelity, and barbarism. Another merit in the new flag is, that it bears no resemblance to the now infamous banner of the Yankee vandals."
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Old 06-28-2015, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Little Babylon
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Wrong flag dude. Thompson designed the Stainless Banner not The Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, which is similar to The Saint Andrews cross style flags. Also the reason for the flags design had nothing to do with slavery but to make it easy to tell apart from the Stars and Stripes of the Union. Many didn't like Thompson's design because it looked like the White flag of surrender. Also the Saint Andrews Cross was used to not upset Southern Jews.
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Old 06-28-2015, 09:30 PM
 
Location: 78745
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People fly the confederate flag because they are racists or because they want to **** other people off. There are many things you can do which aren't illegal, but that make people know that you are a moron because you do them..flying the confederate flag is one of them.
Does a satisfying feeling of superiority come across you when you see somebody flying a Confederate Flag, because you know for a fact that person is a moron, and obviously, you are better than a moron, right?
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Old 06-28-2015, 10:12 PM
 
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I lean right but the confederate flag should never have been allowed on government buildings after the war. I know it was a different time but it is a sign of rebellion and many people associate with the awful legacy that is slavery. That being said, there should be no prohibition for people (right or wrong) to display it privately or in the case of government, in a museum.
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Old 06-28-2015, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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Fake Nooz® create controversies, sheeple buy in,Nooz® fans the hysteria, Nooz® wins
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Old 06-28-2015, 10:30 PM
 
Location: New York
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Flying this flag is a thought crime and totally blasphomy. The agents of the oligarchy will bully him via media venues and make him an example. Then you will all realize that all sheeple must stay in lockstep with the state religion with no deviations accepted.
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Old 06-28-2015, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD / NY
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Wrong flag dude. Thompson designed the Stainless Banner not The Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, which is similar to The Saint Andrews cross style flags. Also the reason for the flags design had nothing to do with slavery but to make it easy to tell apart from the Stars and Stripes of the Union. Many didn't like Thompson's design because it looked like the White flag of surrender. Also the Saint Andrews Cross was used to not upset Southern Jews.
I'm not a flag expert, but, a quick search in Google highlights that the later iteration of the flag, in essence, just expands the cross to cover the entire flag. It still includes the original symbolic cross. The cross in the newer flags has little change.

Again, with such potential for mixed messaging, personally feel there are better ways to 'celebrate' or remember particular events in history, than something that can be construed (in any way) as insensitive and triggering.

Further, while I was Googling, found a few news sources with content like this, "Dixiecrats resourced the Southern Cross flag as a political symbol around the time President Truman supported efforts to end lynchings and desegregate the military in 1948. During the same period, the KKK began using this flag more widely." Its history, and the implicit association here, is enough to retire (or at least minimize the use of) the flag.

psbtw, I'm a dudette.
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