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Old 02-21-2008, 02:42 PM
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(1)The costs of ordinary services around port washington would increase, since there is no more cheap and willing supply of labor.

(3) are you suggesting that some sort of reverse-gentrification is taking place in port washington? becasue i dont think any amount of violence will force the upper class to flee, they are too well entrenched.


(6) think density: there are far more working class people living in apartments and small homes in port washington than wealthy people living in mansions.

(7) illegals can vote?! how??? this is news to me. or maybe im just ignorant.

(8) you knock the socialist, big-government approach, but i think you fail to see the benefits: pay building inspectors more, and they will not need to accept bribes. pay our teachers more, the quality of education increases, all our window-smashers will have the means to rise up out of poverty, and no longer harbor some sort of illogical vendetta.
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1. I would gladly pay more to have work done by legal U.S. residents

3. They won't leave altogether but they will leave the public school system for private schools, that will hurt those left in the public schools.

6. Believe me most people in Port are not working class. Even the cheapest homes and apartments are 2X the amount of working class communities like Ronkonkama or Levittown. Most of Port is upper middle class and Sands Point is upper class. There are some middle class people holding on for dear life but they are not the dominent group. Most of the working class people are in Manorhaven.

7. They do not check your legal status when you register to vote and never check your ID when you go to the polling place.

8. I've heard the poverty argument a thousand times and it may hold true in a severely economically distressed place like Detroit. However living in a place like Port with so many advantages you would have to be an absolute loser to not take advantage of that and succeed in life. The problem is that the culture of the illegals does not value education and I'm not sure what can be done to change that.

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Old 02-21-2008, 02:59 PM
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Yes, you are right, we will leave. The future of Port will consist of the rich in Sands Point that will send their kids to private schools and the rest which will have to endure a rapidly increasing illegal alien population and declining public schools.

My wife and I already talking about moving to the north shore of Suffolk to get away from this nonsense. I see the writing on the wall and unfortunately it has MS-13 written all over it!
I hear ya..to much "new thinking" by the "new blood" renters like Johnny 5 -
----the logic in his post REEKS of the problem.
Perhaps they need to hang all the political lawyers with the MS-13.

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Old 02-21-2008, 03:07 PM
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i think any attempt at going door-to-door with deputized police officers arresting anybody without papers would incite more senseless acts of vandalism from the indigent, who already live in fear of our government. .
Moderator cut: please, Mr. Jackson , your post was not only offensive , but it was violent

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Old 02-21-2008, 03:30 PM
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i think any attempt at going door-to-door with deputized police officers arresting anybody without papers would incite more senseless acts of vandalism from the indigent, who already live in fear of our government. .



[Take it easy there Roast Beef, I wouldn't want the police knocking on everyone's door either.

However, I think the best solution is strict enforcement with employers in regard to hiring illegals. Greatly increased inspections of workplaces with huge fines would likely do the trick. When the illegals realize that they are not going to get any work without the proper legal status, they will go back to Latin America and get back in line with the rest of the world's population that desire to enter this country legally.

The employers would then have to pay living wages and the rich would actually have to do their own yard work/cleaning. Imagine that! Better yet some of the rich kids could actually have part-time jobs in the summer doing manual labor/service jobs. They might actually learn a few things about life and appreciate what they have.

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Old 02-21-2008, 03:59 PM
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Take it easy there Roast Beef, I wouldn't want the police knocking on everyone's door either.
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The knocking ....Well I wouldnt want it eather, but would put up with it to let the cops "clean up".

Angry combatents who dont like our laws raging down the street smashing everything in sight should be dealt with swiftly and harshly.....
Giving in to criminals to avoid "brat rage" is paying blackmail.

This also goes for the "other criminals" that pay smugglers to bring familys of them here to work @ $5 an hour. No doubt some must live in places like Sands Point, and Cove Neck behind steel gates.
Oh gosh .....Imagine walking around or making a wrong turn around them places at night (especially if your a black man) and see how fast a swat team shows up

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Old 02-21-2008, 04:30 PM
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Angry combatents who dont like our laws raging down the street smashing everything in sight should be dealt with swiftly and harshly.....
Giving in to criminals to avoid "brat rage" is paying blackmail.
Hey, I hear ya.

The problem is though that something has to be done on a national level. If they are driven out of one town they will just go to another. I want to see the problem solved instead of just shifted from one place to another. If business needs foriegn labor, they should be screened before they enter this country in order to weed out the criminal element. Learning English and respect for our culture should also be in the cards.

Big Business and the rich have been getting a free ride with this illegal immigrant business for too long, while the native-born and legal immigrant working people have to deal with the externalized costs (in terms of crime and school taxes) of this practice.

The rich just don't understand this concept because they have the money to insulate themselves from the negative consequences of it, while the rest of us suffer.

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