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These figures are why acting as your own GC and using no licensed labor except in the shower/tub area makes sense and saves a fortune.
That totally is your choice and I understand. You are correct, that it is a lot of money to spend on place that you sh%t and wash up. Seriously, you could buy a car for that price.
Professionals just don't like when people say they are over priced because in short, it is the system that we live in that makes everything over priced. They aren't just bankrolling all of this money that people think they are.
I like I said... A single egg cost 50 cents, a slice of cheese is 15 cents and a bread roll is 50 cents.. Yet, go to your local deli and they will sell you an egg sandwich for $4. Just the world we live in...
Can I just ask how much I can save by doing the demolition myself, and buying all the fixtures and having them delivered?
I would need someone to install the drywall, fixtures, tiling, plumbing and electric.
Can I just ask how much I can save by doing the demolition myself, and buying all the fixtures and having them delivered?
I would need someone to install the drywall, fixtures, tiling, plumbing and electric.
Thx
^ that's what the quotes mostly are for... "labor only". Demo will save you a few hundred to $1k at most. Call a handyman and you can get a 7x5 bath done for ~$5k, labor.
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Originally Posted by DesignBuild516
Professionals just don't like when people say they are over priced because in short, it is the system that we live in that makes everything over priced. They aren't just bankrolling all of this money that people think they are.
This kind of response is a lot better than the kinds that were being thrown out by contractors in the other thread. At least there's a lot of detail and truth this time.
In short, your pocket will take a beating if you call big companies for a small job. Smaller guys will have less to overcharge for. I called Alure too for the small job - they had a dedicated sales team making appointments and someone else was going to get back to me about general questions. That was the first sign of things to come.
The more people understand about how it works, the less of people's time will be wasted, contractors included.
Can I just ask how much I can save by doing the demolition myself, and buying all the fixtures and having them delivered?
I would need someone to install the drywall, fixtures, tiling, plumbing and electric.
Thx
If you go back and read DesignBuild breakdown again. the 10-12K doesn't include fixtures. So you're not saving anything there. Demo'ing a bathroom is barely half a day's work and the dumpster will cost about $250. So you'd save $500 probably. You'd be surprised how much comes out of a small bathroom when you're taking it down to the studs
So that $162/hr figure mentioned above is just ridiculous. If you count up all the overhead and include the unpaid hours spent throughout the year, a contractor would be lucky to gross $100K/yr doing only $12K bathrooms. After taxes, it wouldnt be worth the headaches to actually be in business for oneself. It would be easier to get a job, do your 9-5, and go home to peace and quiet until the next morning.
50 weeks of 12K bathroom jobs = $600,000
If a contractor brings in revenue of 600,000 and profits only 100,000. That means there's 500,000 in overhead?
The standard prices in LI is what it is. Whether or not it is worth it depends on the guys spending the money. But when I hear someone only makes 2K on a 12K remodel, I just don't believe it.
There's nothing wrong with making money. I charge $125-175/hr to fix computers for companies. And I keep a huge percentage of it. That's why people at home rather call their nephews to clean their virus.
I used Allure and they provided the dumpster. My bathroom is slightly bigger than the OP and It cost me $16,000 7 years ago, plus it's one stop shopping at their showroom. Bathroom was done in 4 1/2 days. We did used Moen and Kholer fixtures and a stone countertop. I was very happy.
I charge $125-175/hr to fix computers for companies. And I keep a huge percentage of it. That's why people at home rather call their nephews to clean their virus.
And this is why companies should lock down their PCs no matter how "knowledgeable" their users are. That includes keeping a whitelist of non-work-related sites. Privileged users = trouble.
Bottom line, as I learned since I started looking into this last summer, is that anything requiring professionals is going to be EXPENSIVE. If things come up during the job that add to the work, it will be MORE expensive. If you buy cheap materials and fixtures, you may wind up with leaks, which will be expensive. If you buy better quality products to avoid leaks and look better, it will be expensive. So, unless you can do all or most of the work yourself, it will be expensive. The only way to put the cost in perspective is to consider what it costs to build a home, and where most of the money goes. Plumbing, fixtures, cabinetry, tile, granite (or other stones) are what cost the most. Most homes don't have an expensive hallway or dining room, because it's only a floor and walls. It's the kitchen and bathrooms that require most of the product, professional expertise, talent, and labor. So if you have a $400,000 home, and it costs $25,000-$35,000 to redo a master bath with middle or high end fixtures and fittings, or $50,000-$70,000 for a middle or higher end kitchen done really well, it's justified.
If a contractor brings in revenue of 600,000 and profits only 100,000. That means there's 500,000 in overhead?
Seriously? Are you just looking to argue online? Did you read anything besides the last paragraph?
A 5x8 bathroom is NOT getting a full gut remodel by a single person in a single week... Your $600K figure is just nonsense. Read the thread again, and try to understand the numbers.
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