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Old 01-30-2017, 09:10 AM
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Once Trump won, people in question should've prepared for the worst.
Moreso after he took office and started slinging around executive orders on most of his campaign promises. This should not have been a shock. In a nutshell, it's basically just forcing authorities to enforce immigration laws. Bleeding hearts have been looking the other way or having a soft stance on immigration. I think this is good for our country in that it will send a message moving forward regarding immigration. LI has a wicked illegal immigrant population that whether you realize it or not, is part(part) of the reason our taxes/economy are so screwey.
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Old 01-30-2017, 09:22 AM
 
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Once Trump won, people in question should've prepared for the worst.
Moreso after he took office and started slinging around executive orders on most of his campaign promises. This should not have been a shock. In a nutshell, it's basically just forcing authorities to enforce immigration laws. Bleeding hearts have been looking the other way or having a soft stance on immigration. I think this is good for our country in that it will send a message moving forward regarding immigration. LI has a wicked illegal immigrant population that whether you realize it or not, is part(part) of the reason our taxes/economy are so screwey.
That might be true but it's mostly not. IF they gave the slightest 2 shizz about illegal immigration they'd START by enforcing employment laws but that hurts the economy NOW so no way they go there.

It's all BS. First, there is a complete disconnect (moron media) between immigrants, illegal immigrants and REFUGEES. We barely let any refugees in without extreme vetting and even then it's almost 100% women and children. Any claim to the contrary is partisan bunk.

The cons are lying through their teeth. As always the libs let them because they are too stupid and weak to realize MOST American's are perfectly fine with tightening immigration. Doesn't take a wall or a muslim ban (besides, any "ban" type action should have been done QUIETLY, not as a political football...but really, that's all it is).

The people are OK with enforcing the existing laws and tightening up vetting generally. What is happening now is diversionary nonsense and red meat for the base while they crowbar Bannon onto the security council and start WWIII.
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Old 01-30-2017, 10:16 AM
 
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Democrats Tried To Block Refugees From Vietnam From Entering The U.S.

Over the last few days Democrats have been busy displaying there disgust with President Trump. They’ve attacked Trump supporters, rioted at airports, gone on strike in protest, and have called for President Trump’s assassination.

A brief history lesson will show that the Democrats blocked Vietnamese refugees, including orphans, when millions were trying to escape South Vietnam as it fell to the communists from the north. South Vietnam was our ally and we had little to nothing to fear from this group of people. The south Vietnamese weren’t beheading people, blowing themselves up, throwing homosexuals off buildings, and drowning people in steel cages.

It was actually the Republicans who were leading the charge to help out the refugees.

They even opposed orphans.

The group, led by California’s Gov. Jerry Brown, included such liberal luminaries as Delaware’s Democratic Sen. Joe Biden, former presidential “peace candidate” George McGovern, and New York Congresswoman Elizabeth Holtzman.

The Los Angeles Times reported Brown even attempted to prevent planes carrying Vietnamese refugees from landing at Travis Air Force Base outside San Francisco. About 500 people were arriving each day and eventually 131,000 arrived in the United States between 1975 and 1977.

These people arrived despite protests from liberal Democrats. In 2015, the Los Angeles Times recounted Brown’s ugly attitude, reporting, “Brown has his own checkered history of demagoguery about refugees.”
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Old 01-30-2017, 10:31 AM
 
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Not true.

On Face The Nation the Trump admin gave the numbers:
325000 individuals arrived from foreign countries
109 were held for further vetting - 85 released the same day
24 were being held (as of Sunday morning) with the expectation all will be processed and released within another 24 hours

Seemed pretty orderly to me.
Yes, when you "look back", that's the order. Did trump government try to share this information when people got detained in the first place? Nope. What would you expect people to think when their loves one got detained. From what trump said, it's a 90 days ban. Does it mean your love ones would get detained for 90 days?
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:09 AM
 
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That might be true but it's mostly not. IF they gave the slightest 2 shizz about illegal immigration they'd START by enforcing employment laws but that hurts the economy NOW so no way they go there.
So the executive orders on building a wall; stripping money from sanctuary cities; hiring 5,000 more Border Patrol agents; ending “catch-and-release†policies for illegal immigrants; and reinstating local and state immigration enforcement partnerships are not giving a shizz?

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It's all BS. First, there is a complete disconnect (moron media) between immigrants, illegal immigrants and REFUGEES. We barely let any refugees in without extreme vetting and even then it's almost 100% women and children. Any claim to the contrary is partisan bunk.
How do you do vet someone with no papers coming from a country with no functioning government? Call a pay phone in Syria, ask for Mohammed?

lol at your hyperbolic utter nonsense numbers. Do you get your news from Samantha Bee?

Syrian Refugees in the United States | migrationpolicy.org

This is a pro-refugee group. By their numbers, Syrian refugees are mostly male and about half are adults. They make a point of saying that it's UNUSUAL for there to be so many children - other refugee groups don't have as many.

The numbers we let in each year fluctuate, but generally it's between 50k and 100k. Obama and the dummies who run Europe let more in than usual last year, which is why we got stuck with 39k more Muslims last year alone.

Key facts about U.S. refugees | Pew Research Center

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The cons are lying through their teeth. As always the libs let them because they are too stupid and weak to realize MOST American's are perfectly fine with tightening immigration. Doesn't take a wall or a muslim ban (besides, any "ban" type action should have been done QUIETLY, not as a political football...but really, that's all it is).

The people are OK with enforcing the existing laws and tightening up vetting generally. What is happening now is diversionary nonsense and red meat for the base while they crowbar Bannon onto the security council and start WWIII.
The left is the one making a stink. They've been throwing a huge tamper tantrum since Trump won the election. It's OK though, we don't have to listen to them anymore. They lost, big time.

(lol at Bannon starting WW3 when the left and their neocon allies have been trying to start a war with Russia since November).
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:23 AM
 
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(lol at Bannon starting WW3 when the left and their neocon allies have been trying to start a war with Russia since November).
Now who's hperbolic? Obama imposed sanctions, hardly WWIII. Trump is allying with Russia against ISIS...and they would love to split the oil....and THAT will cause a world war. I didn't say i'm against it. Libs are quite out of touch on this. The greater threat is radical Islam, not communism. Only the press and the Dems see it differently. Millenials especially don't see the Russia threat as much.

Frankly, I'm for dispatching all religious zealots. They can't be reasoned with. They are governed by delusional fantasy. Put them all in one prison and let them work it out. Put them on an island somewhere to await the rapture together.
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:33 AM
 
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Yes, when you "look back", that's the order. Did trump government try to share this information when people got detained in the first place? Nope. What would you expect people to think when their loves one got detained. From what trump said, it's a 90 days ban. Does it mean your love ones would get detained for 90 days?
You need to read the resolution, freely available on CNN, WashPo, etc... I am tired of doing the homework for people who refuse to take the two minutes it would take to read the doc. After reading it you will clearly understand what happened this past weekend, what will happen and how the MSM has again twisted facts to support their underlying agenda.
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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I love how the liberals are harping on the fact that Trump has no interests in the Countries that were banned. As if Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen have a need for luxury hotels. They're ranting and raving that UAE, Lebanon, Egypt and Saudi Arabia aren't included in the ban as if they're on the same level as those other hellhole countries.
Iran is a hellhole country?
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Old 01-30-2017, 11:37 AM
 
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Now who's hperbolic? Obama imposed sanctions, hardly WWIII. Trump is allying with Russia against ISIS...and they would love to split the oil....and THAT will cause a world war. I didn't say i'm against it. Libs are quite out of touch on this. The greater threat is radical Islam, not communism. Only the press and the Dems see it differently. Millenials especially don't see the Russia threat as much.

Frankly, I'm for dispatching all religious zealots. They can't be reasoned with. They are governed by delusional fantasy. Put them all in one prison and let them work it out. Put them on an island somewhere to await the rapture together.
Your opinions aren't all bad, I just think you need better information. It was more than sanctions.

He expelled their diplomats.

35 Expelled Russian Diplomats and Families Arrive Back in Moscow - NBC News

He started massing troops at their border with Poland (first time since the Cold War ended)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ar-under-trump



All over unproven allegations that they "interfered" with the election. IE, they hacked John Podesta's email account and gave the emails to Wikileaks (which Wikileaks denies, and his password was apparently "p@ssw0rd" so I'll leave it up to you whether it took massive state-sponsored hacking efforts to crack). IE, they made the Democrats and media look crooked, which they are. If they did do it, we should be thanking them, not saber rattling. Instead, we had senile dummy McCain calling it an "act of war".

McCain: Russian cyberintrusions an 'act of war' - CNNPolitics.com
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Old 01-30-2017, 12:01 PM
 
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Your opinions aren't all bad, I just think you need better information. It was more than sanctions.

He expelled their diplomats.

35 Expelled Russian Diplomats and Families Arrive Back in Moscow - NBC News

He started massing troops at their border with Poland (first time since the Cold War ended)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ar-under-trump



All over unproven allegations that they "interfered" with the election. IE, they hacked John Podesta's email account and gave the emails to Wikileaks (which Wikileaks denies, and his password was apparently "p@ssw0rd" so I'll leave it up to you whether it took massive state-sponsored hacking efforts to crack). IE, they made the Democrats and media look crooked, which they are. If they did do it, we should be thanking them, not saber rattling. Instead, we had senile dummy McCain calling it an "act of war".

McCain: Russian cyberintrusions an 'act of war' - CNNPolitics.com
Really?! It's all theater. We KNOW they interfered with our election. They barely deny it. Just like we've been interfering in other's elections (and coups, and uprisings, and assassinations, and regime changes) for 100 years. We have been in a cyber trade war with China for decades (of course we're losing, cause we try to play fair ). That the Dems think it's why they lost is why they will continue to lose.

Really, it exposed the DNC for being such disingenuous twerps. The Russians didn't put the words in their mouths, just revealed the transcripts. Good on the hackers. I don't believe it's what cost the Dems MI, WI and PA despite their cries of foul. Comey? Well, a little bit. lol
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