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Old 11-21-2019, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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What's it about NY and the insane tolls? When I had to get to NJ to visit relatives it always cost me about $30 just for tolls. Recently they raised it.

When I drove 2K miles across the country I paid about $2 in tolls, total. It was at this bridge in Destin, Florida. I think.

I live in a relatively poor city in a poor state, and the roads are better. I don't pay tolls at all where I live now, yet crews are everywhere doing road work. They're also making improvements, such as creating roundabouts where traffic lights were. Had to get used to them, as roundabouts are not much of a thing in the NE.
Tolls were meant to upkeep the roads, but of course that's a revenue stream now ($1mil at the GWB per 2 days perhaps?). Because we have a deficit... where's all our tax money actually going? Who here can answer?

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Old 11-21-2019, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Little Babylon
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No problem, it just balances the idea they have half the tax with a higher population. They have a lot of money coming in that isn't/wasn't earned in the state. A simple reason why they are less concerned with a state income tax. Sales and use taxes are much more beneficial than an income tax when tourism and retirement are cottage industries.
I can agree with that, but the State, in this case New York, didn’t do anything to keep that pension money in place.When I would visit my parents in NC their peers all had at least one pension, often two. NYS could have kept a larger portion of them by not having them taxed so heavily. Of course without reducing services the taxes would just get moved onto younger workers.
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Old 11-21-2019, 05:24 PM
 
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Car registrations are more expensive in FL. I wouldn’t call it “ridiculously high”.
they do charge a $225 "new to Florida" fee on top of other reggie fees when transferring plates from outside the state.
A friend got a speeding ticket on I-95 in Brevard County. Ticket fee was not that bad (something like $183 for 11 over the limit). They added on a "court fee" that was pretty high though. If you went to court and contested the ticket , they also charge you for the court time if you lose.
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Old 11-22-2019, 05:27 PM
 
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they do charge a $225 "new to Florida" fee on top of other reggie fees when transferring plates from outside the state.
A friend got a speeding ticket on I-95 in Brevard County. Ticket fee was not that bad (something like $183 for 11 over the limit). They added on a "court fee" that was pretty high though. If you went to court and contested the ticket , they also charge you for the court time if you lose.
If you want ridiculous look at the TAVT in Georgia for new residents. Taxing the entire current value of your out of state vehicle @ 7%.

Florida is cheap by comparison. And now with the DMV essentially killed there and operated like a business via the tax assessor’s office it’s efficient, quick and friendly.
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Old 11-22-2019, 05:48 PM
 
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About the speeding tickets, from what I saw the speed limit tends to be 10 MPH higher down there (75 on the main highways), and they probably don't pull you over unless your well above that (80-85.) I was down there last winter, and drove from Naples to Tampa. No one was going slowly. I think you have to be really moving to get pulled over. I don't know what the local cops do around the towns.

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spent a year working down there (recently)

a few things I noticed that were different:
- 6% sales tax on clothing, can go to 9.5% depending on county. No first $110 non-taxable like here.
- Excessive taxes on rental cars , especially if renting out of an airport.
- Water is expensive for homeowners
- Not toll free, especially around Orlando and Tampa. You get nickel and dimed to death.
- High $$ for speeding tickets, with additional "court costs" added. If you contest and lose, even higher court costs (for wasting their time )???
- Initial car registrations are ridiculously high

But yeah, it's much much cheaper in the long run.
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Old 11-22-2019, 06:53 PM
 
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About the speeding tickets, from what I saw the speed limit tends to be 10 MPH higher down there (75 on the main highways), and they probably don't pull you over unless your well above that (80-85.) I was down there last winter, and drove from Naples to Tampa. No one was going slowly. I think you have to be really moving to get pulled over. I don't know what the local cops do around the towns.
On Alligator Alley (between Miami and Naples) you definitely don’t get pulled over unless you’re more than 10 mph over the limit.
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Old 11-22-2019, 07:29 PM
 
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About the speeding tickets, from what I saw the speed limit tends to be 10 MPH higher down there (75 on the main highways), and they probably don't pull you over unless your well above that (80-85.) I was down there last winter, and drove from Naples to Tampa. No one was going slowly. I think you have to be really moving to get pulled over. I don't know what the local cops do around the towns.
yep he was doing 83, got written up for 76 in a 65 zone
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Old 11-23-2019, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Island off the US mainland
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In NY, essentially you pay tolls to the TBTA (and fare to LIRR and Metro-North) to subsidize NYCTA mass transit.

Such is life.
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Old 11-24-2019, 11:05 AM
 
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MTA (TBTA was folded into the MTA long ago.) And don't get me started about using drivers to subsidize the MTA. People need to pay for what it take to run the systems. If that means a $5 subway ride or a $500 monthly LIRR fare, so be it. No more transfer subsidies.

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In NY, essentially you pay tolls to the TBTA (and fare to LIRR and Metro-North) to subsidize NYCTA mass transit.

Such is life.
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Old 11-24-2019, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Island off the US mainland
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Thank you, Robert Moses, for giving us that marvelous entity known as the Public Authority.

LIRR, Metro-North and TBTA all were subsidiary corporations under the Metropolitan Transportation Authority aegis. Hence, by paying 6+ bucks to cross the Throggie, I am subsidizing some hipster's 3-stop ride on the dopey G train, never mind that the thing doesn't in fact go anywhere.
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