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Old 03-25-2008, 03:38 AM
 
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I think the numbers are informative in many ways. Obviously Long Island is changing and becoming more diverse. I personally see race as divider being increasingly replaced by class. Also, I think the old rules about a school's quality and diversity have to rethought.

Some of the best School Districts are also some of the more diverse ones. There are three examples that come to mind, Herricks, Great Neck and Half Hollow Hills. All three are outstanding. These are followed by the increasingly diverse Syosset, Jericho and Roslyn. What all six of these districts have in common, besides diversity, is that they are all middle and upper middle class districts. They have tremendous amounts of resources.

Another point I want to make is that with increasing diversity, especially in Nassau county, is that it makes sense to consolidate the districts to lower taxes and provide equal access to educational resources. As the racial dividing lines are breaking down the class lines should also be broken down.
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Old 03-25-2008, 10:50 AM
 
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Just want to point out that literacy and academic achievement is more closely tied to socio-economics (and education level of the parents) than race/ethnicity. If anyone's interested I'll attempt to find the studies I'm thinking of.
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Old 03-25-2008, 03:19 PM
 
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I have some close Korean friends who moved to Garden City a few years ago. Their children have not been harrassed or anything like that but the kids and the parents are dismayed over the lack of diversity. They will be putting their house up for rent and moving to another, more diverse school district. I have emailed them this thread...believe me this info is useful for many!!!
Yes, from '05-'06, Whites increased from 95% to 96%, and now has been back down down to 95%.

Diversiry is not a stron suit of GC if you are looking for racial diversity. We do have Irish, Italians, English, Greeks, and others. Also, we have people in finance, law, advertising, etc.
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Old 03-25-2008, 03:20 PM
 
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Many of these districts were formerly "mostly" Jewish, and now Asians have been moving in.

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I think the numbers are informative in many ways. Obviously Long Island is changing and becoming more diverse. I personally see race as divider being increasingly replaced by class. Also, I think the old rules about a school's quality and diversity have to rethought.

Some of the best School Districts are also some of the more diverse ones. There are three examples that come to mind, Herricks, Great Neck and Half Hollow Hills. All three are outstanding. These are followed by the increasingly diverse Syosset, Jericho and Roslyn. What all six of these districts have in common, besides diversity, is that they are all middle and upper middle class districts. They have tremendous amounts of resources.

Another point I want to make is that with increasing diversity, especially in Nassau county, is that it makes sense to consolidate the districts to lower taxes and provide equal access to educational resources. As the racial dividing lines are breaking down the class lines should also be broken down.
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Old 03-25-2008, 07:18 PM
 
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Default True: Asians are following in their foot steps.

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Many of these districts were formerly "mostly" Jewish, and now Asians have been moving in.
True in many respects. Jews and many Asians share similar values. Both groups have a deep commitment to giving their kids a quality education. So districts like Herricks, Syosset, Jericho, Great Neck and Roslyn which once had very large Jewish student bodies are slowly being replaced by Koreans, Chinese, Indians and other Asian groups. Those districts are still producing most of Long Island's best and brightest.

What has happened to Long Island's Jewish students. They are still in the above districts, but in decreasing amounts as they are displaced by Asians. However, (and this is my opinion based on anecdotal evidence) many younger secular or reformed Jewish families are moving into Plainview-Old Bethpage, Commack and to a lesser degree Half Hollow Hills. It seems that the more Orthodox Jews are moving to Lawrence, West Hempstead and Plainview. Yet, from what I know, they don't send their kids to the public schools.

Another issue for the Jewish population on Long Island is that the size of the population is stagnant or declining due to a very low birth rate. There just aren't that many Jewish kids today as there once were. The Orthodox Jews do tend to have bigger families, but their numbers are not felt in the public schools.
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Old 03-25-2008, 09:40 PM
 
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I have some close Korean friends who moved to Garden City a few years ago. Their children have not been harrassed or anything like that but the kids and the parents are dismayed over the lack of diversity. They will be putting their house up for rent and moving to another, more diverse school district. I have emailed them this thread...believe me this info is useful for many!!!
Yeah they should move to a much more diverse area! Diversity is a good learning experience. It will toughen those kids right up.
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Old 03-26-2008, 06:47 AM
 
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Just want to point out that literacy and academic achievement is more closely tied to socio-economics (and education level of the parents) than race/ethnicity. If anyone's interested I'll attempt to find the studies I'm thinking of.
I think most people realize this is the case. Still, I'd like to see the studies. It sounds interesting.
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Old 03-26-2008, 09:40 AM
 
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One of the more interesting issues on LI is in 5 towns, especially Lawrence, I think. Used to be more "LI jews" but now the Orthodox are moving in in large amounts. They took over the downtown and the school boards, and appear to be of the mindset to cut some services, etc. b/c all of their kids go to Hebrew schools. A co-worker of mine is one of the "old school" 5 towns people and they are not very pleased.

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True in many respects. Jews and many Asians share similar values. Both groups have a deep commitment to giving their kids a quality education. So districts like Herricks, Syosset, Jericho, Great Neck and Roslyn which once had very large Jewish student bodies are slowly being replaced by Koreans, Chinese, Indians and other Asian groups. Those districts are still producing most of Long Island's best and brightest.

What has happened to Long Island's Jewish students. They are still in the above districts, but in decreasing amounts as they are displaced by Asians. However, (and this is my opinion based on anecdotal evidence) many younger secular or reformed Jewish families are moving into Plainview-Old Bethpage, Commack and to a lesser degree Half Hollow Hills. It seems that the more Orthodox Jews are moving to Lawrence, West Hempstead and Plainview. Yet, from what I know, they don't send their kids to the public schools.

Another issue for the Jewish population on Long Island is that the size of the population is stagnant or declining due to a very low birth rate. There just aren't that many Jewish kids today as there once were. The Orthodox Jews do tend to have bigger families, but their numbers are not felt in the public schools.
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Old 03-26-2008, 04:53 PM
 
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Another issue for the Jewish population on Long Island is that the size of the population is stagnant or declining due to a very low birth rate. There just aren't that many Jewish kids today as there once were. The Orthodox Jews do tend to have bigger families, but their numbers are not felt in the public schools.

I also think that the regular old LI Jewish people that we all grew up with tend to intermarry & the Orthodox Jewish people do not .
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Old 03-26-2008, 05:06 PM
 
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Why not start a post based on overall test scores such as reading and math on the state standardize exams, instead of race?
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