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Rockaway Beach --- surfers, shacks, dolphins,food - drinks- music on the boardwalk, couple of surf shops,ferryloads of visitors are adding to the resort feeling. Most definitely beachy --- "the other end".
Rockaway Beach --- surfers, shacks, dolphins,food - drinks- music on the boardwalk, couple of surf shops,ferryloads of visitors are adding to the resort feeling. Most definitely beachy --- "the other end".
That's been mentioned a few posts earlier. I used to live in the Rockaway Playland area. My family saw when they first built it until it was knocked down and condominiums were put on the property. Rockaway is part of NYC now even though it used to be serviced by the LIRR. It still has one LIRR stop in Far Rockaway. Every Wednesday night in the summer, we could go to the boardwalk and watch the Playland Fireworks. Still, not an easy commute to Manhattan. While it may be further in distance, the LIRR from Long Beach to midtown is faster than the shuttle and the A train.
Exactly. If people wanted boardwalk and amusements they could already go to Coney Island, the Rockaways and much of the Jersey shore.
Robert Moses had a vision of people to be able to get out of the city, take their children away from all the endless buildings and commercialism and be able to visit parks in a more natural environment. He believed that in a major metro area that public access to the beaches was precious and it should not just be owned by a few individuals.
I personally think all the public parks and beaches we have along the South Shore, and on the North Shore as well, are Long Island's best asset.
That's been mentioned a few posts earlier. I used to live in the Rockaway Playland area. My family saw when they first built it until it was knocked down and condominiums were put on the property. Rockaway is part of NYC now even though it used to be serviced by the LIRR. It still has one LIRR stop in Far Rockaway. Every Wednesday night in the summer, we could go to the boardwalk and watch the Playland Fireworks. Still, not an easy commute to Manhattan. While it may be further in distance, the LIRR from Long Beach to midtown is faster than the shuttle and the A train.
I rented bungalows on Beach 109 and Beach 99 in the early 1980s - 1K for the season Memorial Day to September 30 - split 4 ways - good times. I live here year round now.Agree on the commute - be sure to bring a book when you are trying to get to Manhattan. Playland of course is gone,as you said, but a lot of new life on the the peninsula - don't recall any whales or dolphins back then.
If the OP checks out Rockaway he might find what he is looking for. Won't find Howley's, Boggiano's, O'Gara's,or the Cukoo's Nest though. RIP.
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Exactly. If people wanted boardwalk and amusements they could already go to Coney Island, the Rockaways and much of the Jersey shore.
Robert Moses had a vision of people to be able to get out of the city, take their children away from all the endless buildings and commercialism and be able to visit parks in a more natural environment. He believed that in a major metro area that public access to the beaches was precious and it should not just be owned by a few individuals.
I personally think all the public parks and beaches we have along the South Shore, and on the North Shore as well, are Long Island's best asset.
Yeah and he did it by destroying how many communities so he could pave the way to get away from "endless buildings and commercialism".
Yeah and he did it by destroying how many communities so he could pave the way to get away from "endless buildings and commercialism".
Yeah how many? Perhaps you could list the Long Island communities he destroyed on the way to Jones Beach or Sunken Meadow or Heckscher or Robert Moses (Fire Island) or Wildwood or Montauk or Hither Hills or Orient Point. Because I cannot think of any. Now what he did in the Bronx with the Cross Bronx Expressway is another story.
If Robert Moses did not save these places back in the 1920s and 1930s, chances are they would be subdivided into countless private properties, forever off bounds to the general public.
That is exactly what almost happened to Heckscher State Park. Wealthy residents of the area went to court to try to stop Moses from creating a state park there. Instead they wanted to permanently subdivide the land (the Taylor Estate) into 50 smaller estates in order to keep out "riff raff" from the city.
Yeah how many? Perhaps you could list the Long Island communities he destroyed on the way to Jones Beach or Sunken Meadow or Heckscher or Robert Moses (Fire Island) or Wildwood or Montauk or Hither Hills or Orient Point. Because I cannot think of any. Now what he did in the Bronx with the Cross Bronx Expressway is another story.
If Robert Moses did not save these places back in the 1920s and 1930s, chances are they would be subdivided into countless private properties, forever off bounds to the general public.
That is exactly what almost happened to Heckscher State Park. Wealthy residents of the area went to court to try to stop Moses from creating a state park there. Instead they wanted to permanently subdivide the land (the Taylor Estate) into 50 smaller estates in order to keep out "riff raff" from the city.
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If Robert Moses did not save these places back in the 1920s and 1930s, chances are they would be subdivided into countless private properties, forever off bounds to the general public.
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exactly.
try finding a public ocean beach in the summer between Robert Moses State park and Hither Hills State Park where you can park your car and walk to the beach without paying a ton of $$ .
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Yeah how many? Perhaps you could list the Long Island communities he destroyed on the way to Jones Beach or Sunken Meadow or Heckscher or Robert Moses (Fire Island) or Wildwood or Montauk or Hither Hills or Orient Point. Because I cannot think of any. Now what he did in the Bronx with the Cross Bronx Expressway is another story.
If Robert Moses did not save these places back in the 1920s and 1930s, chances are they would be subdivided into countless private properties, forever off bounds to the general public.
That is exactly what almost happened to Heckscher State Park. Wealthy residents of the area went to court to try to stop Moses from creating a state park there. Instead they wanted to permanently subdivide the land (the Taylor Estate) into 50 smaller estates in order to keep out "riff raff" from the city.
Yes your right his over paving, splitting neighborhoods and crosshatching large parts of NYC with highways is justified because of Jones Beach. Fire Island is a Federal National Seashore as for most of the other state parks they are not that heavily visited beyond those who live in the counties. Most of the south shore is developed with Long Beach having the nerve to charge everyone including tax paying residents to access the beach. Adore him if you like he was a over powered sob that would have put a highway right through Greenwich Village because it was what he wanted. Had LI been more developed at the time of his tenure and LI would probably be sliced and diced like everything else he touched.
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