
06-14-2018, 09:54 PM
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Location: In the heights
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Originally Posted by ClarkStreetKid
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What about a giant robotic arm that just throws rafts across the sound like skipping stones?
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06-14-2018, 10:19 PM
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Location: Little Babylon
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Or giant robots that can carry cars across in their ha da!
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06-15-2018, 12:01 AM
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Or a giant sling shot that can catapult us across the Sound
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06-15-2018, 05:28 AM
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Location: Little Babylon
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All of which will happen before a bridge or tunnel.
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06-15-2018, 08:23 AM
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Location: Inis Fada
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Originally Posted by exm
Sorry, but that's total either NIMBY or liberal nonsense. It's a TUNNEL starting a few miles inland.
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Or USGS reality:
https://pubs.usgs.gov/sim/3326/pdf/sim3326_s4p.pdf
While the north shore is fortunate enough to be higher above the water table, the tunnel will still have to go deep while on soil to get far enough under the Sound to reach bedrock. It has dive deep enough once under the Sound to handle the immense weight/pressure of the water above. The Sound is 64 to 300' deep in some areas.
The Lloyd aquifer rests above this bedrock.
The Lloyd aquifer is all we have left for clean, untainted, potable water, and it is already being tapped into in a few areas in Nassau and Queens. If, during the driling process, the aquifer is disturbed and marine water introduced, we will have no other means of fresh water. We already pay out the wazoo for electric -- could you imagine what water would cost if it had to be brought onto LI?
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06-15-2018, 09:15 PM
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The Lloyd aquifer is about 600 feet below the ground in this area. No way any tunnel is going that deep. Aquifer issues are the last thing to worry about when building a bridge to the sound.
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06-16-2018, 12:38 AM
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Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Joe461
I also don't believe that the majority of traffic creating the eternal bottleneck we currently have is vacation traffic.
There is a considerable amount of truck traffic and other commerce that goes on between Long Island and the continent. A commuter rail line doesn't help any of that. A rail line MIGHT open up things by giving Long Islanders more employment options, but it does nothing to address the traffic situation or improve access for all the non-commuters currently creating the traffic problem.
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Afternoon rush hour and weekend traffic we frequently see on the LIE don't seem to be commercial vehicles. They are often families traveling to Brooklyn/SI/Bronx, or the surrounding states. Not necessarily vacation but day trips away. At least those coming from or going to the north won't contribute to that if even a rail from the 135 existed. But the point about having to adhere to a schedule is valid. Most certainly a vehicle tunnel would be utilized the most.
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Originally Posted by OyCrumbler
The tunneling cost when on land isn't usually terrible (unless you do something like how New York state goes about it with crew sizes two to three times what is standard in the rest of the developed world) and vents and emergency access are easier to make.
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And there you have the reason why the figure has many zeros and commas. F this place full of greedy and selfish stains on earth.
Last edited by ovi8; 06-16-2018 at 12:47 AM..
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06-16-2018, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 1174Sixer
The bridge would go from Mount Misery straight to Salem, Massachusetts... 
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Why does it go in those places and it going differently?
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06-16-2018, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ClarkStreetKid
The Mt Msery vortex already does that.
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What is that and why do you say it?
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