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Old 05-20-2018, 08:00 PM
 
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Hello everyone... I wanted to get your thoughts of SD 14 HW... I keep hearing great things about it and wanted some confirmation. I am considering the move into that SD in the next few years. Examples of what i have heard : " not only is a top of the line SD by LI standards but also at the national level".... " majority of students end up in Ivies or something close"... " the preschool is pretty much a Manhattan Montessori"... Can you confirm the above? Is it really that elite of an education/worth the substantial tax increase?

Also my particular concerns regarding this district :

1. How competitive is it compared to north shore districts? Similarities/differences?

2. Any Diversity? I know its majority white, but is it "white diverse"? i.e. mainly Jewish or no?

3. If you have a motivated kid, are they actually at a disadvantage in a district like this due to the level of kids around them when it comes to college vs. a Valley Stream SD (intermediate SD) ? i.e. the whole big fish in a small pond concept

4. Or is the teaching and curriculum presented in a whole different way and on a different level than say an regular district? or am I looking at this in a wrong way?

As always thanks for your input!
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Old 05-20-2018, 08:21 PM
 
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Diversity is a government control tool.
And it's highly over rated. Move somewhere that works well for you.
As long as people are decent and accepting who cares what the demographics are.
People are getting way too hung up on the diversity thing.
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Old 05-20-2018, 08:28 PM
 
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In reality, "diversity" (other than Asian) means that the district isn't good. Sad, but true. There are maybe 2-3 "diverse" districts on the island that are reputable.
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Old 05-20-2018, 08:58 PM
 
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There's actually plenty of good-performing districts with sizable black and Hispanic populations on Long Island. Places like Baldwin, Malverne, Valley Stream and Elmont schools (as well as even more school systems out in Suffolk) have strong ratings but are bashed and talked down on mostly by outsiders so they struggle to maintain good reputations despite putting out good performance.

Check ratings like what's on greatschools, newsday and neighborhoodscout and you'll see ratings at and above 7/10, graduation rates over 90% and high AP participation rates for many of the diverse systems. Any basic amount of research will prove this.
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Old 05-21-2018, 08:56 AM
 
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Hello everyone... I wanted to get your thoughts of SD 14 HW... I keep hearing great things about it and wanted some confirmation. I am considering the move into that SD in the next few years. Examples of what i have heard : " not only is a top of the line SD by LI standards but also at the national level".... " majority of students end up in Ivies or something close"... " the preschool is pretty much a Manhattan Montessori"... Can you confirm the above? Is it really that elite of an education/worth the substantial tax increase?

Also my particular concerns regarding this district :

1. How competitive is it compared to north shore districts? Similarities/differences?

2. Any Diversity? I know its majority white, but is it "white diverse"? i.e. mainly Jewish or no?

3. If you have a motivated kid, are they actually at a disadvantage in a district like this due to the level of kids around them when it comes to college vs. a Valley Stream SD (intermediate SD) ? i.e. the whole big fish in a small pond concept

4. Or is the teaching and curriculum presented in a whole different way and on a different level than say an regular district? or am I looking at this in a wrong way?

As always thanks for your input!
" not only is a top of the line SD by LI standards but also at the national level"
In Nassau there are only two SD that are top level in terms of outcomes (which colleges they get into) - they are Jericho and Manhasset, Great Neck is a close second, all the rest are the same.

" majority of students end up in Ivies or something close"
Demonstrably false. Go to the guidance section of the SD website and look up college acceptances.

" the preschool is pretty much a Manhattan Montessori"
Every Nassau SD that provides preschool is a "Manhattan Montessori"

1. How competitive is it compared to north shore districts? Similarities/differences?
As I said above, just as competitive as virtually every other Nassau SD.

2. Any Diversity? I know its majority white, but is it "white diverse"? i.e. mainly Jewish or no?
Who cares.

3. If you have a motivated kid, are they actually at a disadvantage in a district like this due to the level of kids around them when it comes to college vs. a Valley Stream SD (intermediate SD) ? i.e. the whole big fish in a small pond concept
No.

4. Or is the teaching and curriculum presented in a whole different way and on a different level than say an regular district? or am I looking at this in a wrong way?
You are looking at this the wrong way. The SD are all very similar.
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Old 05-21-2018, 10:38 AM
 
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Diversity is over-rated.



I moved from Brooklyn to LI to escape "diversity".


I don't need "diversity" beating up my kids because I value education more than the latest air jordans.
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Old 05-21-2018, 11:09 AM
 
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Diversity is over-rated.



I moved from Brooklyn to LI to escape "diversity".


I don't need "diversity" beating up my kids because I value education more than the latest air jordans.
Yeah, cause there are no "Gucci Gangs" on Long Island.
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Old 05-21-2018, 11:12 AM
 
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There's actually plenty of good-performing districts with sizable black and Hispanic populations on Long Island. Places like Baldwin, Malverne, Valley Stream and Elmont schools (as well as even more school systems out in Suffolk) have strong ratings but are bashed and talked down on mostly by outsiders so they struggle to maintain good reputations despite putting out good performance.

Check ratings like what's on greatschools, newsday and neighborhoodscout and you'll see ratings at and above 7/10, graduation rates over 90% and high AP participation rates for many of the diverse systems. Any basic amount of research will prove this.
^This and Half Hollow Hills, Elwood and Deer Park are a few in Suffolk County.
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Old 05-21-2018, 12:05 PM
 
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l level".... " majority of students end up in Ivies or something close"... "
As always thanks for your input!
Any person with an ounce of common sense would see the problem with that statement...you're probably talking 300-400 kids in a high school class, and 150-200 go to an Ivy or something close? Not happening. Even at $25K private high schools that doesn't happen.
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Old 05-21-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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Diversity is over-rated.



I moved from Brooklyn to LI to escape "diversity".


I don't need "diversity" beating up my kids because I value education more than the latest air jordans.
Getting beaten up over shoes is sure better than being attacked over the last syringe of heroin or fentanyl!

But seriously, its not realistic to lump the average kid from the projects of Brownsville/East New York with the average minority kid from a middle class and above household that can afford to pay $12k+ in taxes and a $400k+ mortgage.

And if you wanna truly escape diversity then you're better off moving to West Virginia lol
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