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Old 12-14-2018, 12:28 AM
Status: "The Emerald City - Home of Seattle Grunge" (set 7 days ago)
 
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Make the LIE a super expressway. 8 lanes each way! THAT would help.
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Old 12-14-2018, 12:44 AM
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Location: In the basket
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Actually, NY loves rules and taxes.
Put a tax on additional vehicles. And a permit.
2 car per household freebie or 1 registration per driver license or something like that.
Anything over that needs a permit, an annual fee and a road usage tax.
That'll knock thousands of cars off the road.
It'll force people to rideshare or use our dismal public transportation.
It's also good for the environment.
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Old 12-14-2018, 04:56 AM
 
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I’m in favor of taxing additional vehicles.

But the real reason heavy traffic exists is because people are nervous/scared while driving. It sounds stupid but it’s actually the truth.
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Old 12-14-2018, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Kings Park & Jamesport
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Actually, NY loves rules and taxes.
Put a tax on additional vehicles. And a permit.
2 car per household freebie or 1 registration per driver license or something like that.
Anything over that needs a permit, an annual fee and a road usage tax.
That'll knock thousands of cars off the road.
It'll force people to rideshare or use our dismal public transportation.
It's also good for the environment.
Please don't give Mr. Cuomo any ideas!
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Old 12-14-2018, 08:31 AM
 
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Actually, NY loves rules and taxes.
Put a tax on additional vehicles. And a permit.
2 car per household freebie or 1 registration per driver license or something like that.
Anything over that needs a permit, an annual fee and a road usage tax.
That'll knock thousands of cars off the road.
It'll force people to rideshare or use our dismal public transportation.
It's also good for the environment.
I'll just register my cars in Montana then.
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Old 12-14-2018, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Additional vehicles tax - that will hurt families with kid drivers. Aren't we taxed enough already? It's not like we see 3 or more vehicles at people's homes as a majority so I don't think that contributes to the traffic problem. Do you want to slide into a personal property tax like CT too?

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I’m in favor of taxing additional vehicles.

But the real reason heavy traffic exists is because people are nervous/scared while driving. It sounds stupid but it’s actually the truth.
Don't see too many slowpokes slowing everyone else down, very rare. We often see rubberneckers slowing down traffic, even if it's on the opposite side of the road. Tall median barriers will help that. Not much you can do when it's on the same side and they travel slower for safety.

Then you have other slowdowns that clear up seemingly for no apparent reason. That's either due to volume finally exiting an area or an accident that finally got cleared out of the way.

What can really be done other than reducing population? If rideshare hasn't taken off by now, it won't get any better with time. Maybe with the new trend of young people not owning cars, but just maybe. I don't think public transport is the answer here in fragmented suburbia.
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Old 12-14-2018, 09:15 AM
 
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Iím in favor of taxing additional vehicles.

But the real reason heavy traffic exists is because people are nervous/scared while driving. It sounds stupid but itís actually the truth.
This is absolutely true. Way too many of them being Uber drivers.
Had a discussion with a couple Hotkarls this morning at work who insisted they donít need to move over from the passing lane as long as they were doing the speed limit. Itís infuriating.
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Old 12-14-2018, 09:45 AM
Status: "Need an ark with all this rain" (set 4 days ago)
 
Location: Where my bills arrive
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Actually, NY loves rules and taxes.
Put a tax on additional vehicles. And a permit.
2 car per household freebie or 1 registration per driver license or something like that.
Anything over that needs a permit, an annual fee and a road usage tax.
That'll knock thousands of cars off the road.
It'll force people to rideshare or use our dismal public transportation.
It's also good for the environment.
Yeah right you could charge excessive road usage fees with the gas tax, or tolls for roads that have been paid off for several decades, or add exorbitant fees to cross necessary bridges; Oh wait the state is already doing that and more.

How about if the state simply ensures the monies collect for roads and transportation issues goes to those projects. Andy can think of a different way to pay off the public sector unions or to implement another wasteful giveaway...
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Old 12-14-2018, 09:45 AM
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This is absolutely true. Way too many of them being Uber drivers.
Had a discussion with a couple Hotkarls this morning at work who insisted they donít need to move over from the passing lane as long as they were doing the speed limit. Itís infuriating.
I love doing 54 in the fast lane from Riverhead to Queensland back. No, 52. But that's a different issue.

Tax the cars. Remove a tax or fee from something else like parks or entertainment.
Less cars less traffic. Old school. Back to the days when you had 2 cars max per family.
Kids be bugging you to borrow the car. Less complaining about neighbors parking in front of your house.
Plows can better clear roads, streetsweepers can do better job.
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Old 12-14-2018, 10:39 AM
 
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Get rid of the HOV lanes and use the space to add an extra 3 lanes that switches direction/flow depending on the time of day. West in the morning from 5-10 am and East from 3pm-8pm.


I like this idea, but what do you do with the dividers? Do they manually have to be moved(expensive), is it done automatically in other places? Doesn't it all eventually bottle neck anyway?
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