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Old 12-14-2018, 01:25 PM
 
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I like this idea, but what do you do with the dividers? Do they manually have to be moved(expensive), is it done automatically in other places? Doesn't it all eventually bottle neck anyway?
This is done in a lot of different areas. How itís accomplished depends on the different situations. For something like this I would go with permanent barriers that have the entrance and exits controlled by gates and signals. They use movable barriers on bridges where they just want to switch a single lane back and forth.
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Old 12-17-2018, 07:02 AM
 
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Transit oriented development. Upzone the areas around LIRR stations so people can walk/bike to the stations instead of driving. Also allow for more mixed development in these areas. Allow people to get to work and take care of their errands without needing to drive. The only way to reduce traffic is to get rid of people's reasons to drive. It's crazy that we have small single family homes around some of the busiest train stations in the country. This is starting to happen in some places, such as the Wyndanch Rising Project and increased development along the train lines on the south shore (Bay Shore, Patchogue etc). Hopefully more soon with the planned projects in Ronkonkoma.

Increased lanes on the LIE wouldn't do anything. It's been proven many times that increased lanes on highways leads to something called "induced demand", where traffic fills to the expanded lanes. It seems counter intuitive, but look at Houston. They have some of the largest highways in the country but also have some of the worst traffic. The Katy Freeway is 26 lanes and still experiences constant congestion! Not only that but good luck ever getting neighborhood approval for a 4 lane expansion on the LIE.

But if we are talking insane pipedreams, my suggestion would be to build light rail connecting the North and South shores. Something like a Patchogue-Ronkonkoma-Stony Brook line, connecting the 3 LIRR lines and providing easier transit to the university.
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Old 12-17-2018, 07:12 AM
 
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We need stricter automotive control.
Many types of automobiles should be banned as well.
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Old 12-17-2018, 12:29 PM
 
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Transit oriented development. Upzone the areas around LIRR stations so people can walk/bike to the stations instead of driving. Also allow for more mixed development in these areas. Allow people to get to work and take care of their errands without needing to drive. The only way to reduce traffic is to get rid of people's reasons to drive. It's crazy that we have small single family homes around some of the busiest train stations in the country. This is starting to happen in some places, such as the Wyndanch Rising Project and increased development along the train lines on the south shore (Bay Shore, Patchogue etc). Hopefully more soon with the planned projects in Ronkonkoma.

Increased lanes on the LIE wouldn't do anything. It's been proven many times that increased lanes on highways leads to something called "induced demand", where traffic fills to the expanded lanes. It seems counter intuitive, but look at Houston. They have some of the largest highways in the country but also have some of the worst traffic. The Katy Freeway is 26 lanes and still experiences constant congestion! Not only that but good luck ever getting neighborhood approval for a 4 lane expansion on the LIE.

But if we are talking insane pipedreams, my suggestion would be to build light rail connecting the North and South shores. Something like a Patchogue-Ronkonkoma-Stony Brook line, connecting the 3 LIRR lines and providing easier transit to the university.
The HOV lanes Make traffic themselves. Places like the 61 hov lane exit where most cars exit the HOV lane and cut across 3 lanes of traffic bring the LIE to a hault.

My suggestion is make the HOV lanes express lanes. Have on and off ramps to the service roads certain points only.
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Old 12-17-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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Make the LIE a super expressway. 8 lanes each way! THAT would help.

Nah, 6 lanes will do it. Just flip the eastbound lanes to be westbound only.
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Old 12-17-2018, 01:49 PM
 
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Just goes to show that NY'ers aren't as smart as they think they are.
The greatest metro area in the world has the worst most ass backward infrastructure.
The moronic planning and thought process is baffeling.
Unless all of our politicians are originally from out of state? Just plain stupid.
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Old 12-20-2018, 06:19 AM
 
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beyond some disease that wipes out, say, 50% of the population, gasp, only true and drastic infrastructure changes would work to"solve" long island traffic problems. my concept is, both urbanize and ruralize it.

how about a conversion to farmland (or better yet, prairie land...would would do wonders for our aquifer) of all land a mile north of sunrise highway and a mile south of hempstead turnpike? this would include higher density residential areas within the affected area.

allow high density housing around babylon branch stations...five to ten stories. also along merrick road. build a modern rapid light rail line along merrick road from lynbrook to amityville,.and along hempstead turnpike from belmont park to route 110. trains every fifteen minutes most if the day, more during rush hours, less during the overnight. rebuild the old abandoned central railroad branch from floral park through hempstead and out to the existing connection in farmingdale.

stuff like that.
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Old 12-20-2018, 10:00 AM
 
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Just goes to show that NY'ers aren't as smart as they think they are.
The greatest metro area in the world has the worst most ass backward infrastructure.
The moronic planning and thought process is baffeling.
Unless all of our politicians are originally from out of state? Just plain stupid.
I don't know if this actually needs to be said but all NY politicians care about is pocketing revenue for themselves and remaining in power to do so. Despite all the money that's collected, we look like we haven't modernized. Super jealous of other metro areas.
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Old 12-20-2018, 10:05 AM
 
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I don't know if this actually needs to be said but all NY politicians care about is pocketing revenue for themselves and remaining in power to do so. Despite all the money that's collected, we look like we haven't modernized. Super jealous of other metro areas.
It's ALL politicians. NY just has a larger concentration of the worst of the worst.
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Old 12-24-2018, 01:51 PM
 
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Anyone have any suggestions as to solve the traffic problem on Long Island.
Move off of it?
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