W-section coram (Hillsdale, Wells: condo, homes, buy)

[Walter Greenspan]

Originally Posted by Lancet71

ACTUALLY this is not true!!!! I work for the Coram Post office and can tell you precisely.About 70 %-Longwood, 25%-Middle Country, and about 5% Comsewogue. There are two postal routes that cover this area so we constantly see the school mailers for the area. Closer to Old Town is middle country and the rest of middle country stops are close to locust ave and cedar (north west corner of w section). Around westbrook area is comsewogue.

However, as I've already posted, there is a difference between having a "Coram, NY 11727" mailing address and being in the Hamlet of Coram:

The Hamlet of Coram has a different border than does the "Coram, NY 11727" ZIP Code postal zone (i.e., a place can have a "Coram, NY 11727" mailing address and not be in the Hamlet of Coram and a place can have other than a "Coram, NY 11727" mailing address and be in the Hamlet of Coram): places that have a "Coram, NY 11727" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Coram are in the Hamlet of Middle Island, the Hamlet of Gordon Heights, the Hamlet of Medford and the Hamlet of Selden; and, at the same time, there are places in the Hamlet of Coram with a "Selden, NY 11784", "Port Jefferson Station, NY 11776" and "Middle Island, NY 11953" mailing address.

[KellyFG]

I agree, I lived on wellsley lane from 1973 until 1996 & I graduated from Comsewogue.
Wellsley lane is very long & only the northern part of it past wycomb is comesogue, welborne, wellsley court, walton way & half of westbrook are also comsewogue. if you come up westbrook you're in longwood which continues south and to the pine road area. if you come up wellseley out of the comsewougue section you'll be in middle country which continues southwest toward old town road/bicycle path and into some of the H-section.
I knew kids from all schools growing up & I could tell you exactly which house on each street was at the district line.
IMO all three are average districts.

[Lancet71]

Originally Posted by Walter Greenspan

However, as I've already posted, there is a difference between having a "Coram, NY 11727" mailing address and being in the Hamlet of Coram:

Walter i'm not sure where you live but most of suffolk county doesn't categorize any of their fire districts as hamlets. The only hamlet is in shakespeare. Obviously there is a selden,and north selden, and a coram, and north coram but you're really getting petty and unfortunately the info doesn't matter much. School districts have defined lines and if you're within a certain area you go to that school hands down.

[Walter Greenspan]

Originally Posted by Lancet71

Walter i'm not sure where you live but most of suffolk county doesn't categorize any of their fire districts as hamlets. The only hamlet is in shakespeare. Obviously there is a selden,and north selden, and a coram, and north coram ...

Lancet71, I'm not sure where you got the idea that I was categorizing a fire district as a hamlet since I never mentioned the term "fire district".

To borrow your phrase, you're showing a typical postal ignorance* by not knowing that in New York State, the state is sub-divided into counties and the counties are sub-divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations, and the towns are further sub-divided into villages and hamlets.

You'll want to read and understand this http://www.city-data.com/forum/new-y...-glossary.html before reading further.

According to the Suffolk County Planning Department (the Suffolk County that's in New York State, not the Suffolk County in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts), there are 125 hamlets among the 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 32 villages, as well, but no cities. There are also 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County.

For a good set of town-by-town maps showing all the villages and hamlets in each of LI's 13 towns (3 in Nassau County and 10 in Suffolk County): http://www.city-data.com/forum/long-...-resource.html


*Postal ignorance occurs when a postal worker actually believes that the postal city/postal town shown in a place's mailing address indicates in which community that place is located. That's not true, because none of the 157 communities (32 villages + 125 hamlets = 157 communities) in Suffolk County has the same border as the ZIP Code postal zone that shares the name of any of these villages and hamlets.

This is not just the situation in Suffolk County: in many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

And, by the way, while there may be a north Selden and a north Coram, there is no North Selden nor North Coram among the 36 hamlets that are in the Town of Brookhaven.

[Lancet71]

Originally Posted by Walter Greenspan

Lancet71, I'm not sure where you got the idea that I was categorizing a fire district as a hamlet since I never mentioned the term "fire district".

To borrow your phrase, you're showing a typical postal ignorance* by not knowing that in New York State, the state is sub-divided into counties and the counties are sub-divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations, and the towns are further sub-divided into villages and hamlets.

You'll want to read and understand this http://www.city-data.com/forum/new-y...-glossary.html before reading further.

According to the Suffolk County Planning Department (the Suffolk County that's in New York State, not the Suffolk County in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts), there are 125 hamlets among the 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 32 villages, as well, but no cities. There are also 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County.

For a good set of town-by-town maps showing all the villages and hamlets in each of LI's 13 towns (3 in Nassau County and 10 in Suffolk County): http://www.city-data.com/forum/long-...-resource.html


*Postal ignorance occurs when a postal worker actually believes that the postal city/postal town shown in a place's mailing address indicates in which community that place is located. That's not true, because none of the 157 communities (32 villages + 125 hamlets = 157 communities) in Suffolk County has the same border as the ZIP Code postal zone that shares the name of any of these villages and hamlets.

This is not just the situation in Suffolk County: in many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

And, by the way, while there may be a north Selden and a north Coram, there is no North Selden nor North Coram among the 36 hamlets that are in the Town of Brookhaven.

Actually the way the zip codes were originally done even surprises me that's why years later they added the +4 to pinpoint exactly each area and yes people do think they live in Belle Terre when they actually live in Port Jefferson or Gordon Heights when its actually Medford,middle island or Coram.
Also if you go back quite sometime you would realize when the school zones were created,thats when they consolidated towns. Coram used to have a few different names including emerald hills and tanglewood hills. Hamlets are used by cartographers but not even government officials use these terms and almost every town has at least 3 or more borders.

[engineman529]

In my opinion Longwood school district is not as bad as people make it out to be. Longwood has diversity and any district that has that kind of diversity is going to have lower test scores i.e. wyandanch, freeport, huntington, etc.. and will never be able to match up wiith districts such as half hollow hills, ward melville, garden city, etc.. Middle Country can be just as rough as longwood and has the same gang issues. Longwoods taxes are higher than Middle Countrys which is what makes people feel that they get more for their money in MC as opposed to longwood. For special education services Longwood is one of the best on the island. Others may bave different views.

[vickip2]

I'm talking about the "H" section and "W" section West of 83. The majority of that area is Middle Country district. Family members are bus drivers for Middle Country and that is their route.

[vickip2]

engineman529 - yes it is true Longwood has great special services as well as a great UPK program. It's not my district, but I know many friends and educators that rave about it.

[Lancet71]

Originally Posted by vickip2

I'm talking about the "H" section and "W" section West of 83. The majority of that area is Middle Country district. Family members are bus drivers for Middle Country and that is their route.

The W section (wedgewood) is west of 83 with about 75% of the section going to longwood and the rest middle country and comsewogue. The H section (harford,himmel,etc...)is east of 83 and I think that is middle country.

[vickip2]

honestly don't know why you keep saying that when I know people in that "W" section area that all go to Middle Country and not Longwood. I know every single street and being involved in the school there I know a lot of people that live in the "W" section. With the exception of maybe 2 or 3 streets (Comsewogue) it's Middle Country. Where are you getting your figures from? The "H" section is not only East of 83 but it is also west of 83. I know every street in the "H" section west of 83. As you go north toward Pine in that area the district starts to change.