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Old 05-05-2019, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Tierra del Encanto
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Blame:

Management: for allowing this to happen
Workers: for gaming the system
Unions: for not allowing any sensible reform


As far as I'm concerned, they're all equally guilty and hopefully reckoning day will come soon for all of them.
For once, I agree 100%. Also, NY's spineless pols that bent over backwards to sell out the public for union support. Nobody supports the interests of the public, pretty much.
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Old 05-05-2019, 10:52 PM
 
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How is it even possible? Even if the guy worked an extra 40 hours every week I don't think he would even come close to 344k. He would have to have been working 90+ hours a week. Who in the right mind allowed this **** to happen? You cant seriously tell me it would be cheaper to pay this guy nearly triple his salary instead of hiring another person and paying them benefits.
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Old 05-06-2019, 06:14 AM
 
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How is it even possible? Even if the guy worked an extra 40 hours every week I don't think he would even come close to 344k. He would have to have been working 90+ hours a week. Who in the right mind allowed this **** to happen? You cant seriously tell me it would be cheaper to pay this guy nearly triple his salary instead of hiring another person and paying them benefits.
It’s not that it’s cheaper right away. But when you hire another person who is feeding at the trough the costs will escalate year after year.

I agree with the other posters that this is a massive fail all around. Time to disband the MTA, invalidate all existing agreements and create new ones that pay more in line with market rates.
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Old 05-08-2019, 07:00 PM
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It’s not that it’s cheaper right away. But when you hire another person who is feeding at the trough the costs will escalate year after year.

I agree with the other posters that this is a massive fail all around. Time to disband the MTA, invalidate all existing agreements and create new ones that pay more in line with market rates.

It's about being efficient. These guys probably don't NEED to log OT, but union rules dictate insane work rules. If the LIRR would be a private company this never, ever would have happened.
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:27 PM
 
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It’s not that it’s cheaper right away. But when you hire another person who is feeding at the trough the costs will escalate year after year.

I agree with the other posters that this is a massive fail all around. Time to disband the MTA, invalidate all existing agreements and create new ones that pay more in line with market rates.

Have no problems with OT that needs doing; but LIRR should open things up so certain persons don't hog everything.


Let a young guys with a family get in on the action and or otherwise spread things around. This instead of old geezers on their way out (retirement) getting first dibs on every and anything that comes up.
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Old 05-09-2019, 06:30 PM
 
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In the interest of balanced debate: http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewt...54d9604b5bae50
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Old 05-10-2019, 07:09 AM
 
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I work for the MTA so I see these things on a daily basis and you are right, union work rules are to blame for the outrageous overtime doled out. You can have a guy working 1 hour getting paid 4 hours ot plus the 2 hour bonus. A lot of the older guys and the guys who kiss ass with management and the union get the bulk of the overtime to pad their pensions.
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Old 05-10-2019, 04:38 PM
 
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Hahahaha!


https://nypost.com/2019/05/10/lirr-e...mta-crackdown/




https://nypost.com/2019/05/10/cuomo-...ly-impossible/
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Old 05-11-2019, 04:12 PM
 
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it won't change a single thing.
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Old 05-11-2019, 07:06 PM
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I work for the MTA so I see these things on a daily basis and you are right, union work rules are to blame for the outrageous overtime doled out. You can have a guy working 1 hour getting paid 4 hours ot plus the 2 hour bonus. A lot of the older guys and the guys who kiss ass with management and the union get the bulk of the overtime to pad their pensions.

Thanks for the insight.
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