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How about holding the line on compensation packages and eliminating the patronage positions ny pet peeve is my Town Of Oyster Bay sanitation supervisors who are home by what 10am, while waking me up at 5
I remember when I worked for fedex, Inused to deliver dell computers to the schools every week during school season, for years
Finally I saw principle of a very large school one day, and asked, why do you guys get so many new computers what do you do with them all every week for so many years??
She said that they have to use up the school budget completely, if they dont use it, theyll lose it, and the budget will go down the following year. So they use up the budget every year, then demand more money because the budget “ran out”. She said its a total scam alot of these school budgets always get passed because they campaign on “for the children help us!” I couldnt believe some of the things she told me. Meanwhile my local fire dept gets 400 bucks a year only from the 15k taxes I pay and theres no money to fix these potholes that cause accidents and wreck tires and makes the community look beat up and run down
NY pays 33% higher in property taxes to schools that the national average.
I remember when I worked for fedex, Inused to deliver dell computers to the schools every week during school season, for years
Finally I saw principle of a very large school one day, and asked, why do you guys get so many new computers what do you do with them all every week for so many years??
She said that they have to use up the school budget completely, if they dont use it, theyll lose it, and the budget will go down the following year. So they use up the budget every year, then demand more money because the budget “ran out”. She said its a total scam alot of these school budgets always get passed because they campaign on “for the children help us!” I couldnt believe some of the things she told me. Meanwhile my local fire dept gets 400 bucks a year only from the 15k taxes I pay and theres no money to fix these potholes that cause accidents and wreck tires and makes the community look beat up and run down
NY pays 33% higher in property taxes to schools that the national average.
The computers probably came from the Smart Schools state/federal grant a few years ago. That money was allotted specifically for technology upgrades. Use it or lose it. It wasn't ever going back to you as taxes. It didn't come from the local school taxes you paid. It came from state and fed money (which of course we paid as well). Should the district NOT get the computers?! Just give up the money and let some other district get them? They SAVED you buying them out of the actual budget by getting them through a grant. They did a good thing.
...and yes, teacher pay is way too high and the unions have too much power.
Re Budgets: The idea in municipal accounting is to spend down the budget because YOU CAN'T ROLL IT OVER. Voters vote on a new budget in May to take effect July 1. The LAW is the district can only retain 4% of fund balance. That's pretty lean. The work around to avoid lowering taxes is to put any extra money in reserves. This is legal and VOTED on by the taxpayers (the ones who show up). Some like reserves, they keep tax increases low and credit ratings up so borrowing is cheap. That's good business. Some dislike them as they are proof that we were overtaxed to begin with and the district didn't need the money budgeted. It's a tricky balance.
All of these things move based on who gets involved. Few of us get involved. We just like to complain.
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Might as well get your fair share from the island nation of Togo,
New Yorkers and Islanders are responsible for a large portable of the taxes being paid. Looking for your fair share should start in the school budgets and counties as that’s where some of your money is.
I remember when I worked for fedex, Inused to deliver dell computers to the schools every week during school season, for years
Finally I saw principle of a very large school one day, and asked, why do you guys get so many new computers what do you do with them all every week for so many years??
She said that they have to use up the school budget completely, if they dont use it, theyll lose it, and the budget will go down the following year. So they use up the budget every year, then demand more money because the budget “ran out”. She said its a total scam alot of these school budgets always get passed because they campaign on “for the children help us!” I couldnt believe some of the things she told me. Meanwhile my local fire dept gets 400 bucks a year only from the 15k taxes I pay and theres no money to fix these potholes that cause accidents and wreck tires and makes the community look beat up and run down
NY pays 33% higher in property taxes to schools that the national average.
Use it or loose it is common to all local and federal government funded agencies or whatever. You'd get same response from any civil servant/administrator be they in the Pentagon or your local school district.
As Sir Humphrey Applebee of "Yes, Minister" would explain things all civil service departments jealously guard their turf and budget. They will always ask for increases in budgetary spending, and or attempt to hold the line at current levels regardless of actual need. To ensure against claims they already have "too much money" funds are deliberately spent regardless of actual want.
Those sums spent on computers likely pales in comparison to some of the spending at DOD. Branches of the military routinely spend huge sums say on appliances for this or that military base or whatever. Only to turn around and declare NOS or barely used items "surplus" and sell them on at basically pennies on the dollar.
Use it or loose it is common to all local and federal government funded agencies or whatever. You'd get same response from any civil servant/administrator be they in the Pentagon or your local school district.
As Sir Humphrey Applebee of "Yes, Minister" would explain things all civil service departments jealously guard their turf and budget. They will always ask for increases in budgetary spending, and or attempt to hold the line at current levels regardless of actual need. To ensure against claims they already have "too much money" funds are deliberately spent regardless of actual want.
Those sums spent on computers likely pales in comparison to some of the spending at DOD. Branches of the military routinely spend huge sums say on appliances for this or that military base or whatever. Only to turn around and declare NOS or barely used items "surplus" and sell them on at basically pennies on the dollar.
Ask any military pilot in peace time and they will tell you that as the month goes on more flight hours get added at the end of the month and the last few days are spent over the ocean dumping fuel due to the above rule.
I would never defend the abuse of school funds, however, regarding the computers, it is really simple accounting that is responsible for that. Grant money needs to be used for the specific purpose the grant is written for i.e. purchase of computers, so they are governed by the fact that they can't turn grant money into cash for the budget. They can donate the old ones, but they can not accept money in return.
In fact, years ago there was one district I know that dumped the old (3 years at most) computers into the dumpster. This was done with the greatest of care, in fact there was a person in the dumpster placing them and after school there were activities and once the students were gone the teachers would scoop up the computers and take them home. According to the superintendent at the time, he sent them to the dumpster and what ever happened after that he didn't care.
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Omg.
Forget it.
This was about JUST getting our fair share from the airports.
But as you can read most if not all believe that the over taxation due to the public sector unions is a key reason for the tax burden. You can't levy a tax on what you don't own like the airports...
You really need to stop, pal. This is bordering on mental illness territory already. You and your merry little band of whiners are not going to accomplish anything other than making yourselves look like fools while the airline industry leaders and coffers sit back, point and laugh. If you don't like it, move. That's all there is to it. You're almost as bad as Walter Greenspan when someone was dumb enough to mention a town, city, village, hamlet, whatever. Just stop.
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