why is Suffolk co. so crappy? (Huntington, Huntington Station: relocating, real estate, property taxes)

[Glad2BHere]

Originally Posted by GCGuy

I agree, nice to see. That's why I haven't been frequenting the boards as much, maybe it's time for a "comeback."

Also of note, as with many bashers, this person doesn't even LIVE here. Once again, hello, nice to meet you...if you hate this place, don't spend your time trolling and being nasty.

Don't you know defending LI on the boards is a no no? Only bashers allowed, defenders need to distance themselves. (insert sarcasm)

[newtoli]

Originally Posted by Glad2BHere

Don't you know defending LI on the boards is a no no? Only bashers allowed, defenders need to distance themselves. (insert sarcasm)

Plenty of people defend Long Island here. You just think that when someone says "yeah, you might want to avoid that area due to crime", it means Long Island is getting bashed.

[mommytochris]

Yawn...not another of these posts...I mean come on who doesn't love eating by the water in Port Jeff or watching fireworks in Montauk, hanging at Corey beach and eating at Flo's. I could go on and on. I love Suffolk County.

AND forget about recreation and think about medical care. NYC being so close with amazing specialist is something you could not put a price on. Even here on LI is mostly the amazing NYC docs who don't want city life for their families. I fear moving from here and having a doctor stare at me and not understand my son's needs or mine. I have a rare medical condition while pregnant and guess where the pioneers of the treatment are located. YEP NYC. That is priceless to me.

Yeah there is stuff that stinks (traffic, costs) but the good outweighs the bad by far.

[NYNewbie]

Originally Posted by ponchoblanco

There is not much to do, it's so expensive and everything seems rundown, am I missing something?..

I couldn't count on two hands the number of people I know that left here from N.C. or other places who wishes they hadn't left or that much about Long Island were with them where they'd moved.

After I moved here, I likened Long Island to Berwyn/Cicero Illinois, but with a coast line block people from leaving. In other words, people kept moving westward in Chicagoland. Once a community developed, standards for housing changed. People moved into bigger houses with bigger yards and commuted. Older people stayed behind. Younger people kept moving.

Here, you couldn't run that far away. You hit the shore. You hit the end of the trainline (which has been extended in Chicagoland west of DeKalb - which is ridiculous. But with no place to run, families have to live together. Property values soar. Homes age - they don't get replaces. But what you get are mutli-generational households. Strong schools. Social capital.

I really love Long Island, especially after 5 years of subjection to Florida where people don't care about anyone else (despite their ostensible Christian devotion - had a kid in a Baptist church fan give me the finger). Salaries were low. Schools were wretched. But there was a lot of independence. Independence can get you a lot, but it will get you lonely. It is tough to be lonely in my neighborhood, what with the neighbor stopping by all the time to offer me tools, with invitation to block party preparation parties, soccer for the folks on the street, kids with LaCrosse sticks and wiffle ball bats in the streets.

Yep, there is something you are missing. Towns show up on maps, but real community does not.

[GCGuy]

Nice job. Rep points, indeed.

Originally Posted by NYNewbie

I couldn't count on two hands the number of people I know that left here from N.C. or other places who wishes they hadn't left or that much about Long Island were with them where they'd moved.

After I moved here, I likened Long Island to Berwyn/Cicero Illinois, but with a coast line block people from leaving. In other words, people kept moving westward in Chicagoland. Once a community developed, standards for housing changed. People moved into bigger houses with bigger yards and commuted. Older people stayed behind. Younger people kept moving.

Here, you couldn't run that far away. You hit the shore. You hit the end of the trainline (which has been extended in Chicagoland west of DeKalb - which is ridiculous. But with no place to run, families have to live together. Property values soar. Homes age - they don't get replaces. But what you get are mutli-generational households. Strong schools. Social capital.

I really love Long Island, especially after 5 years of subjection to Florida where people don't care about anyone else (despite their ostensible Christian devotion - had a kid in a Baptist church fan give me the finger). Salaries were low. Schools were wretched. But there was a lot of independence. Independence can get you a lot, but it will get you lonely. It is tough to be lonely in my neighborhood, what with the neighbor stopping by all the time to offer me tools, with invitation to block party preparation parties, soccer for the folks on the street, kids with LaCrosse sticks and wiffle ball bats in the streets.

Yep, there is something you are missing. Towns show up on maps, but real community does not.

[GCGuy]

Originally Posted by newtoli

Plenty of people defend Long Island here. You just think that when someone says "yeah, you might want to avoid that area due to crime", it means Long Island is getting bashed.

C'mon. If anything, LI defense is a new phenomenon on this board. There was a time, maybe 6mos to a year ago that it was virtually all "LI suck" posts, with nary a person to defend it...there were a few, but not many. Now, it seems more balanced, fair, and much more helpful overall.

[OhBeeHave]

Originally Posted by GCGuy

C'mon...more balanced, fair....

OK -- who let Bill O'Reilly onto the board?

[GigiBowman]

I wrote this a few weeks ago when I saw all the bashing on Long Island...it seems to have calmed a bit since then.


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[SIZE=2]April 17, 2008 at 10:24:28[/SIZE]
When Opinions Effect People & Their Communities --Is the Internet Such a Wonderful Thing?
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The internet is a wonderful tool for research of every kind. If you need to find out about anything from soup to nuts you can Google it, find it in Dogpile, Ask it or even Gigablast it to name a few....never in our history has such an abundance of information been so easily retrieved.....but is it really such a wonderful thing?

City-Data.com- Relocating, Moving, Local Discussions http://www.city-data.com/forum/, is an interesting enough website with lots of information. If you plan on relocating to a new city or state it could be very helpful. The website is broken down state by state and then each state is broken down by city or county as well. I found this site by accident from a real estate google I was doing to find information about a particular area for my customer. The potential of a site like this was, I thought, fantastic!.....until, I looked further. Instead I found that it is a website that could have been great had it not been for the one factor they probably didn't count on, the Opinionated Poster.

You see, unless you find yourself relocating to a place that is wealthy and perfect with little ethnic diversity, you'll find that any ordinary working class town with moderate priced homes and a reasonable amount of crime has an Opinionated Poster steering people in other directions. I've seen threads with titles from "Avoid Long Island If You Can" http://www.city-data.com/forum/long-island/116749-avoid-long-island-if-you-can.html which included everything negative about the entire area, to the name of a particular town highlighted with a ? next to it leaving it completely open to public judgement http://www.city-data.com/forum/long-island/250915-baldwin-bad.html--and public judgement it gets whether the poster lives there or not! You get an awful lot of "I heard" or "I drove through and saw" and, needless to say, gets pretty ugly. From insults of storefronts and shops and citizens with animated descriptions of their dress and the cars they drive to ethnic slurs describing whole neighborhoods and shopping areas with actual streets named, town bashing has become an artform on this website. Which leaves one to wonder, is negative honesty a good thing?

[SIZE=2]Well, not when it comes from the mouth of the Opinionated Poster it's not! It starts out innocent enough. You see the name of a town you walked through and read what posters believe is gospel because they say it is....you might even laugh or shake your head in agreement --and then....you find your own town becomes the focal point of the newest thread --and it hurts. They call your streets dirty, they rip apart your child's high school and they call your neighbors drug dealing Mexicans. http://www.city-data.com/forum/3303908-post18.html People start jumping on board like a mob squad until you're almost embarrassed that you live there and want to put your family home up for sale. And is there anything to stop someone with a vendetta from destroying a neighborhood? Yes...there is something called the Moderator. And I found out when I complained about the different forms of racism, steering, blacklisting and hatefulness I witnessed that there was only one Moderator. So essentially, the answer to that question was really no, there's nothing to stop this.

You can tell on a poster or thread and express a complaint...but another one just pops up 30 minutes later. It's a never ending cycle and the more popular it gets the more out of hand it gets. The worst thing about it is that it's advertised for Relocators so you will find out-of-towners who know nothing about a particular place being totally turned off to it from a group of Opinionated Posters and essentially, your town will be skipped over to potential growth which can effect your property value.

Now don't get me wrong, there are some pretty positive threads on this service board. People ask questions about everything possible to do with home buying or selling or general questions like "What's the Housing Market Like in Kansas" to "Where can I find a Home Inspector I can trust" http://www.city-data.com/forum/long-island/301877-home-inspector.htmlor "What's the best burger on Long Island" and they are quickly answered by people who have had previous experience and want to share their knowledge. Some of these posts can fall by the slanderish side as well if Vendetta Man http://www.city-data.com/forum/long-island/290769-landscaper-rant.htmlwants to rip apart the Termite Inspector he felt overcharged him or Angry Customer wants to ruin the reputation of a Shopkeeper. So the ugliness isn't reserved for town-bashing. I actually had a pretty bad personal experience. On the link to my signature I put my Real Estate website figuring if anyone was looking for pet friendly rentals --my specialty-- I might be able to help. Well, I had an altercation with a few of the posters when I exclaimed my dissatisfaction with what they were saying about the town I lived in and they took it upon themselves to post a thread titled "Real Estate Agents Pictures" which they used to smear myself, my husband and expressed how they would never use particular agents based on how ugly their pictures were. I think they called mine "A shot away from a glamour shot" and my husband was reduced to a "goon magician who would make their house disappear". It was pretty childish but also damaging as plenty of posters who go to this site and who might recognize me by my advertising can now find a negative thread about me and my services on the great wide internet.

So where the Internet is an amazing fabulous place with a wealth of information we never dreamed possible it also has it's negative aspects that can hurt people and their personal property. What can we do? It's a hard one to call. I guess all we can truly do is moderate ourselves, try and be nice people and think about who we might hurt before we take liberties with our opinions. Guess it comes down to what kind of person you are....and karma ---because eventually....what comes around goes around

www.longislandrentalsquad.com
Organizer of the Long Island Ron Paul Meet-up. Real Estate Agent and Substitute Teacher

[diamondplayer]

stay on topic and answer the o/p's question!

[NYNewbie]

Originally Posted by diamondplayer

stay on topic and answer the o/p's question!

Who is that directed at? Who nominated you the arbiter of relevance?