How is Holbrook/Holtsville area? (Ronkonkoma, Farmingville: home search, neighborhood, school districts)

[villager-li]

Watch out for the area of Holbrook around Union Ave - the planes landing at MacArthur are pratically right on top of you over there. I would be careful with any part of Holbrook/Holtsville near the LIE - there may be parts where you do not see planes as a previous poster mentioned, but there are many parts where you will see planes flying overhead (very low) all the time. It is an absolute must to spend a lot of time in whatever area you choose to check out the plane situation before you decide to buy a particular house (go there at different times of the day too). I almost made a big mistake by buying a house in Lake Ronkonkoma just north of the LIE in a very nice area but got out of the deal when I saw there were so many planes flying overhead at night. I would have never known unless I checked it out like I did, by sitting in my car at night and seeing 13 planes fly overhead. With that said, there are parts of Holbrook and Holtsville that are quite nice. I used to have an apartment in Holbrook. I have always liked the Birchwood section of Holbrook/Holtsville (it is in both towns) - Greenbelt Parkway on the east side of Nicolls goes through both sections of the development - the homes are very well kept overall. Remember though that the closer you are to Nicolls, the louder the traffic noise will be. I also know people who live in the New England Village section of Holbrook (which starts at Singingwood Drive) who really like it. The section west of Broadway Ave and east of the airport has some nice pockets but it's a bit too close to the airport in my opinion. Regarding things to do, when I lived there I spent a lot of time in Sayville on Main Street and at the restaurants down there - it is very nice and I miss it actually. I never really found much to do in Holbrook as it is mostly just housing developments, but I am sure others would have some ideas. Living in Holbrook or Holtsville, you will be very close to the Island 16 movie theater as well, which is very nice but also very crowded on the weekends. Best of luck!

[Walter Greenspan]

It appears that the Census Bureau changed the URL for the maps that I had inserted into my comment on the respective geography of the Hamlet of Holbrook and the Hamlet of Holtsville.


Here are the corrected URLs for the maps (hopefully, these URLs will not be changed again):


The Hamlet of Holbrook



The Hamlet of Holtsville

[Walter Greenspan]

Originally Posted by Walter Greenspan

It appears that the Census Bureau changed the URL for the maps that I had inserted into my comment on the respective geography of the Hamlet of Holbrook and the Hamlet of Holtsville.


Here are the corrected URLs for the maps (hopefully, these URLs will not be changed again):


The Hamlet of Holbrook



The Hamlet of Holtsville

Apparently, the Census Bureau seems to automatically change the URL for maps if these URLs are used in an automatic link. Wikipedia uses these same maps but (so far) uses stationary URLs:


The Hamlet of Holbrook



The Hamlet of Holtsville

[John9l0]

That Holtsville map is way off. East of Morris Avenue is Farmingville, followed by Ronkonkoma, not Holtsville.

[Walter Greenspan]

Originally Posted by John9l0

That Holtsville map is way off. East of Morris Avenue is Farmingville, followed by Ronkonkoma, not Holtsville.

The map is correct: it appears that you are confusing a ZIP Code postal zone for a community's (village and hamlet) borders.

Part of the Hamlet of Holtsville is in the service area of the "Farmingville, NY 11738" ZIP Code postal zone, as well as in the service area of the "Holbrook, NY 11741" ZIP Code postal zone. Both the Hamlet of Holtsville and the Hamlet of Farmingville, as well as all the other 32 villages and 123 hamlets in the 10 towns of Suffolk County, have a different border than does the ZIP Code postal zone that shares that community's name.

Also, there are places that have a "Holtsville, NY 11742" mailing address that are in the Hamlet of North Patchogue and the Hamlet of Medford.

[villager-li]

It looks like the map indicating the hamlet of Holtsville has areas with postal addresses of Lake Ronkonkoma, Farmingville, and Holbrook. I recall, and confirmed with the maps on MLSLI, houses in the developments west of Warren Ave (south of Portion Road) are listed as Lake Ronkonkoma and houses in the developments east of Warren Ave are listed as Farmingville. And, starting at Avenue C and going west from there, those neighborhoods consider themselves Holbrook. As far as I know, people in these neighborhoods do not consider themselves part of Holtsville. I almost bought 2 houses, 1 in one of the developments considered Lake Ronkonkoma and the other in what was considered Farmingville, and the hamlet of Holtsville was never mentioned at all. Curious how the census map is so far off from reality. It's one thing for the map to be slightly off, but the area encompassing Holtsville on the census map is much larger than what is typically considered Holtsville.

[Walter Greenspan]

Originally Posted by villager-li

Curious how the census map is so far off from reality. It's one thing for the map to be slightly off, but the area encompassing Holtsville on the census map is much larger than what is typically considered Holtsville.

The following may help you understand why what is "typically considered" is oftentimes wrong: http://www.city-data.com/forum/long-...where-you.html

[OhBeeHave]

Originally Posted by villager-li

It looks like the map indicating the hamlet of Holtsville has areas with postal addresses of Lake Ronkonkoma, Farmingville, and Holbrook. I recall, and confirmed with the maps on MLSLI, houses in the developments west of Warren Ave (south of Portion Road) are listed as Lake Ronkonkoma and houses in the developments east of Warren Ave are listed as Farmingville. And, starting at Avenue C and going west from there, those neighborhoods consider themselves Holbrook. As far as I know, people in these neighborhoods do not consider themselves part of Holtsville. I almost bought 2 houses, 1 in one of the developments considered Lake Ronkonkoma and the other in what was considered Farmingville, and the hamlet of Holtsville was never mentioned at all. Curious how the census map is so far off from reality. It's one thing for the map to be slightly off, but the area encompassing Holtsville on the census map is much larger than what is typically considered Holtsville.

You have to remember that the census has been around far longer than zip codes, which didn't come into existence until the 1960's. Census boundaries are more likely to reflect the boundaries of the actual community, whereas zip code boundaries were put into place to speed mail delivery. They do not reflect a community's growth over time.

The postal service is the one which has skewed reality in this case.

[Walter Greenspan]

Originally Posted by OhBeeHave

The postal service is the one which has skewed reality in this case.

Skewed and screwed: http://www.city-data.com/forum/long-...t-mailing.html

[John9l0]

Originally Posted by Walter Greenspan

The map is correct: it appears that you are confusing a ZIP Code postal zone for a community's (village and hamlet) borders.

Part of the Hamlet of Holtsville is in the service area of the "Farmingville, NY 11738" ZIP Code postal zone, as well as in the service area of the "Holbrook, NY 11741" ZIP Code postal zone. Both the Hamlet of Holtsville and the Hamlet of Farmingville, as well as all the other 32 villages and 123 hamlets in the 10 towns of Suffolk County, have a different border than does the ZIP Code postal zone that shares that community's name.

Also, there are places that have a "Holtsville, NY 11742" mailing address that are in the Hamlet of North Patchogue and the Hamlet of Medford.

Nope, it's wrong. I have buddies that live in that neighborhood west of Morris, (made a typo in may last post, I meant west, not east) and it's a Farmingville NY, 11738 address. I live in Holtsville, and I have never heard anyone call that area west of Morris "Holtsville".


I just checked my Suffolk County Atlas, and Holtsville's boundaries end at Morris. Everything west was Farmingville and Ronkonkoma.