Is this what Long Island's future looks like? (beach, oil)

[OhBeeHave]

Originally Posted by TomMoser

At a buck a bottle, you couldn't go wrong!

After consuming the bottle, many of us did go wrong!

[Johninwestbury]

Yes Long Island is full of ghettos. Jones Beach has been declining for years. It is now a popular place for the "gangstas" from places like Freeport, Roosevelt, and Baldwin, just a short drive away.
The problem is, especially in Nassau, the government's refusal to admit there's a problem. Suozzi has cut the NCPD, once one of the best police forces in the nation, down to a skeleton crew making it almost impossible to be effective.
We're also inundated with illegals, because Suozzi and the Nassau legislature want to keep that cheap labor flowing for the rich snobs on the north shore. This is often at the expense of many communities such as Westbury, Franklin Square, Hicksville, Elmont, West Hempstead, which were once considered safe, blue collar areas to live, that are now infested with gangs and illegals.
People are moving out of these areas in droves, and in their place, more illegals, usually cramming into flophouses (ppl are so desperate to sell they will sell to anyone!).
Most folks wanting a nice beach experience will go east to Robert Moses where it is cleaner and safer. Pretty much the same fate that destroyed city beaches will destroy Jones Beach.
Long Beach however seems to hold on and has gotten much better through the years, and so perhaps thats where alot of ppl that used to go to Jones now go.
Also with direct LIRR transportation its more appealing to Manhattan-ites, instead of taking an infrequent, jam packed up LI Bus from Freeport to Jones Beach.

[AlexisT]

Have you actually looked at Nassau County crime stats recently? It's still pretty darned safe. And Jones Beach has always been a little colorful.

The suburbs are changing. It's not just LI. Go anywhere in the country and you'll see it.

[Glad2BHere]

Originally Posted by AlexisT

Have you actually looked at Nassau County crime stats recently? It's still pretty darned safe. And Jones Beach has always been a little colorful.

The suburbs are changing. It's not just LI. Go anywhere in the country and you'll see it.

This is true. Visited my friend's "country house" in PA, that had been in the family for 20+ years and it had changed as of 5 years ago. My friend commented how it was clearly headed in a different direction. Can only imagine what it's like now. So yes, everywhere is changing IMO.

[sean sean sean sean]

Originally Posted by Jrprofess

(Taking a deep breathe) Finely honed sarcasm...like taking in the bouquet of a fine wine...

As thick as that's laid on, I guarantee you at least one person on here took it seriously!

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Here's a set of interesting articles about the "changing" suburbs I came across....

The negative outlook:

Originally Posted by The Atlantic.com

The decline of places like Windy Ridge and Franklin Reserve is usually attributed to the subprime-mortgage crisis, with its wave of foreclosures. And the crisis has indeed catalyzed or intensified social problems in many communities. But the story of vacant suburban homes and declining suburban neighborhoods did not begin with the crisis, and will not end with it. A structural change is under way in the housing market—a major shift in the way many Americans want to live and work....

The positive counterpoint:

Originally Posted by Longitudinal Slum

...the model of the suburb and suburban living is cautiously being reexamined under the guise of New Urbanism. New Urbanist communities have begun to support denser developments with an emphasis on public transportation or walkable living. Lifestyle Centers mimic the stylings of traditional Main Street, while beginning to mix retail, commercial and housing in the same development. While neither approach is perfect, and wreak of stylistic falsities more appropriate of a Disneyworld amusement center, they demonstrate the possibilities in rethinking how suburban development is approached, as opposed to a complete abandonment or disregard / distaste for the suburbs, as practiced by close-minded city dwellers who believe the revitalization of the inner city is the only honorable direction for us to take moving forward.

[rusty78]

Originally Posted by rocafeller05

Seems like every day I pick up the paper I read of more and more violence on the Island. I hope this isnt a sign of what lies ahead. They need to crack down hard now before it gets out of control! Its sad when things like this is happening at public places......
Teen shot at Jones Beach -- Newsday.com (broken link)

Perhaps off track...but did you review the last Census and perhaps the one before that.....what they determined was a high percentage of 18 to 24 years olds...that went off to college...did not return to Long Island...the 1990 Census has it pegged at around 25% and the 2000 Census even higher...they classified the students as those likely to contribute to the community...are not returning...siting housing, taxes, traffic, etc... So you are right...where is Long Island going to?????

[OhBeeHave]

Originally Posted by rusty78

Perhaps off track...but did you review the last Census and perhaps the one before that.....what they determined was a high percentage of 18 to 24 years olds...that went off to college...did not return to Long Island...the 1990 Census has it pegged at around 25% and the 2000 Census even higher...they classified the students as those likely to contribute to the community...are not returning...siting housing, taxes, traffic, etc... So you are right...where is Long Island going to?????

Somedays it would seem either North Carolina or the dogs. Take your pick.

[GigiBowman]

do you honestly think the person with the gun had a carriers permit? Gun control...yeah sure, make sure the innocent people are unarmed so that the criminals who get the guns illegaly are the only ones who have them.

[OhBeeHave]

Laws are for the law abiding.

The criminal element doesn't give a rat's patootie now; like they would turn in their weapons to comply with gun control laws?

[renault]

People won't admit it out loud because it's "politically incorrect" but the fact is that multi-culturalism is creating a lot of problems on Long Island. Jones Beach is one of those places that used to be a good beach for families but now it's overcrowded with illegal immigrants, low-class riff-raff, teenage hoodlums, and other undesirables.