How many take the LIRR? (Islip, Babylon: high school, salary, prices)

[WildCardSteve]

Originally Posted by Johninwestbury

Well I certainly believe there is an attitude of disrespect for the passenger on the LIRR. I have done several videos about the LIRR, including one of an overcrowded train on Halloween, with cars closed with 2 employees just lounging out on a 4 seater while the rest of us stand.
Unfortunately I get regular internet harassment from people claiming to be LIRR employees. Because of that video the MTA found out and now most cars are open, and I am not hearing the end of it. Some of these guys are just real cruel.
Unfortunately it paints all LIRR employees in a bad light, and there's plenty of good, hard working LIRR employees too.
I dont know how many of you have ridden Metro-North, but it is a completely different picture up there, the crew are much friendlier overall and take pride in their equipment as the trains are spotless. Even the seats shine!
Both railroads are MTA, but why is LIRR so much worse than Metro-North?

I've had better experiences of the LIRR's employees. (though, not the patrons) The cleanliness of the trains has taken a nosedive relative to the eighties.

I don't ride Metro-North much, but I see the trains from the outside a lot. Their equipment looks a lot more antiquated than the LIRR.

[azzurrony]

Originally Posted by Crookhaven

Whos getting screwed, the taxpayers are who are funding a redundant and useless line like Hempstead.

Why does 40% of our Island get 70% of our service?
Why is the entirety of Brookhaven completely underserved?
Why has the LIRR failed to change its business model in the face of an obvious eastward migration?

BTW if you were bought a house before checking the LIRR schedule shame on you.You could be living in Babylon or Huntington with much better service and QOL.

Drive to Mineola or drive to Hicksville but please stop complaining.
You dont know how good you got it.

crooks

The Hempstead line is not redundant and useless. Our trains are full in the morning and at night. The line saves what would be a traffic mess up in Mineola if you had a flood of people from GC and Franklin Sq going there.

Of course I looked at the schedule. One of the reasons we bought in GC is so we could WALK to the train. I don't mind the 40 min ride. What I'm saying is that it could be way better and faster. Again, I showed you the numbers of how inefficient some of the Nassau stations can be in comparison to Suffolk.

Driving to alternative stations is not the answer. That just increases LI traffic and hurts the enviroment. What we need is more efficient train lines all throughout the system and more express trains.

[Transpl]

Originally Posted by Johninwestbury

Well I certainly believe there is an attitude of disrespect for the passenger on the LIRR. I have done several videos about the LIRR, including one of an overcrowded train on Halloween, with cars closed with 2 employees just lounging out on a 4 seater while the rest of us stand.
Unfortunately I get regular internet harassment from people claiming to be LIRR employees. Because of that video the MTA found out and now most cars are open, and I am not hearing the end of it. Some of these guys are just real cruel.
Unfortunately it paints all LIRR employees in a bad light, and there's plenty of good, hard working LIRR employees too.
I dont know how many of you have ridden Metro-North, but it is a completely different picture up there, the crew are much friendlier overall and take pride in their equipment as the trains are spotless. Even the seats shine!

Both railroads are MTA, but why is LIRR so much worse than Metro-North?

I can only speak for the Babylon line but the crew is always pleasant and professional. The trains are clean and well kept. Not immaculate, but I never go to sit down, see litter or a spill that makes me rethink my seat choice.

I commute daily and am quite impressed at the overall quality of service and reliability/timeliness. Maybe results vary from off hour trains or different lines.

[Crookhaven]

Originally Posted by azzurrony

The Hempstead line is not redundant and useless. Our trains are full in the morning and at night. The line saves what would be a traffic mess up in Mineola if you had a flood of people from GC and Franklin Sq going there.

Of course I looked at the schedule. One of the reasons we bought in GC is so we could WALK to the train. I don't mind the 40 min ride. What I'm saying is that it could be way better and faster. Again, I showed you the numbers of how inefficient some of the Nassau stations can be in comparison to Suffolk.

Driving to alternative stations is not the answer. That just increases LI traffic and hurts the enviroment. What we need is more efficient train lines all throughout the system and more express trains.

Perhaps we could arrage a train to come to your backyard then : )

Listen driving is NOT the answer.
Hub and Spoke is.
Hence the Mineola Intermodal.

We dont need more stops...we need faster service and busses that sync with the rail.

Thats all people are asking for in Brookhaven.
Intermodal Hub and Spoke with Express to NYC.

crooks

[MikeyKid]

Originally Posted by Transpl

I can only speak for the Babylon line but the crew is always pleasant and professional. The trains are clean and well kept. Not immaculate, but I never go to sit down, see litter or a spill that makes me rethink my seat choice.

I commute daily and am quite impressed at the overall quality of service and reliability/timeliness. Maybe results vary from off hour trains or different lines.

I will bash the RR and they deserve it, but if I had to choose a "home" station it would most definitely be Babylon - throwing out Pt Wash and some obvious really close choices.

Babylon is just under an hour on an express with pretty decent consistency... parking is hell, though.

[S.I.B.]

Originally Posted by MikeyKid

I will bash the RR and they deserve it, but if I had to choose a "home" station it would most definitely be Babylon - throwing out Pt Wash and some obvious really close choices.

Babylon is just under an hour on an express with pretty decent consistency... parking is hell, though.

I used to commute out of babylon. The best thing about it was that you could fall asleep on the way home and not worry about missing your stop. That's not the case with the newer trains though...right? One negative was the interminable craaaaawwwwwl from Lindenhurst to Babylon every night. It would drive me crazy. Also, there's usually 5-6 stations before Babylon on the "express" trains which is less than ideal.

[TVR1997]

They dropped off a mini booklet detailing the fares, tolls and service changes.

MTA Fares Information

Under the MTA Plan, They are proposing a minimum ticket price hike of 24% and up to 29% for the commuter railroads. Scary.

Mail and Ride/Unlimited Metrocard combo discount will be reduced to 4%, down from the current 5% (I think it used to be 9%).

The cost of buying a ticket on board would rise to $6.50 (I really don't have a problem with this one).

The Ravitch plans would increase fares between 4% & 9.5%.


And there's some scary, SCARY stuff for Long Island Bus riders

The base fare would increase to $3.50 (up from $2) and, unlimited ride metrocards would NO LONGER BE ACCEPTED BY LONG ISLAND BUS. I was reading this in horror this morning because I sometimes take the bus to the train (and use NYC subways as well). Again folks, the fare would increase to $3.50 from $2...$7 a day round trip and pay per metrocards only!

[Smash255]

Originally Posted by S.I.B.

I used to commute out of babylon. The best thing about it was that you could fall asleep on the way home and not worry about missing your stop. That's not the case with the newer trains though...right? One negative was the interminable craaaaawwwwwl from Lindenhurst to Babylon every night. It would drive me crazy. Also, there's usually 5-6 stations before Babylon on the "express" trains which is less than ideal.

There are a few babylon trains that are direct express rtrains (they then connect to go further east). There are a few express trains directly towards Babylon, you also have the semi-express and the local. For example the 6:27 is a direct express rain to Babylon, you have a 6:33 whose first stop after Jamaica is Seaford, which si the one I'm usually on (well try to be anyway), and you have a 6:46 and 7:09 local train followed by a 7:30 semi-express for Babylon (Jamaca-Freeport-Massapequa on out)

[Mobilemoll]

Originally Posted by TVR1997

They dropped off a mini booklet detailing the fares, tolls and service changes.

MTA Fares Information

Under the MTA Plan, They are proposing a minimum ticket price hike of 24% and up to 29% for the commuter railroads. Scary.

Mail and Ride/Unlimited Metrocard combo discount will be reduced to 4%, down from the current 5% (I think it used to be 9%).

The cost of buying a ticket on board would rise to $6.50 (I really don't have a problem with this one).

The Ravitch plans would increase fares between 4% & 9.5%.


And there's some scary, SCARY stuff for Long Island Bus riders

The base fare would increase to $3.50 (up from $2) and, unlimited ride metrocards would NO LONGER BE ACCEPTED BY LONG ISLAND BUS. I was reading this in horror this morning because I sometimes take the bus to the train (and use NYC subways as well). Again folks, the fare would increase to $3.50 from $2...$7 a day round trip and pay per metrocards only!

You know, I don't have a prob with that neither. Granted it sucks if you are at a station with 1 or 2 ticket machines and a line with the train pulling up. That's why I try to buy extra tickets when I know I'm going to be traveling a bit as well as buying tickets online when I know I'm going to be heading out a good 3-4 days in advance.

I clicked on the link and checked out the LIRR plans and I am horrified about the proposal of closing all night ticket offices at Penn and Jamaica (wtf??!!). Reducing graffiti removal and station maintenance?

Peeping at the LIB side, amongst the bus lines that are considered under utilized, I never knew the N80 was one of them. Granted, I haven't taken that bus in a few years so I guess more folks take the N81. Speaking of the N81, that bus and N1, 2, 15, 20, 24, 27 and 73 are getting their routes revised to serve their respective communities. Please tell me traveling won't get worse and result in three (or more?) connections when one transfer sufficed before!

[longislandmike]

tRonkonkomo is an accident waiting to happen.

I don't know if they still do it, but on the parking lot side...Town of Islip, is it ?....the cars are "parked"...more like JAMMED...bumper to bumper for the entire length of the road in and out of the entrance, the full length, in front of the rail platform, and it's entrances.

One of these days, some accident will occur and NO emergency vehicles will be able to get to the train.

Frankly, I would NOT want to depend on rail employees to help !

It would be a major disaster.

Sometimes something like this has to happen, for change to occur.