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Old 08-28-2008, 05:47 PM
 
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Yeah... and the Republicans controlled Nassau for how many decades, drove the taxes up, and ended up getting kicked out of office because everyone got fed up. I do not think you can lay LI's tax issues on the Dems. This is about local politicians who thought that if they shoveled out the pork their jobs would be safe, and a problem that goes back decades. Don't forget, "Senator Pothole" was a Republican.
Nice try. Suozzi's been using the same logic for almost 7 years now. He's way beyond the point of being able to blame Republicans any more.

And by the way, Republicans did not drive up property taxes on Long Island (you can thank the school districts for that.) The Gulotta administration in Nassau County held the line on the county portion of property taxes for many years. Did you forget the 19% increase that Suozzi enacted shortly after taking office? And wait for the next double-digit increase.
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Old 08-28-2008, 07:28 PM
 
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Did I say Suozzi was the Second Coming? No. But Republicans controlled the county and the town of Hempstead, and they're responsible for what they did. And they certainly left a hell of a mess for Suozzi to clean up. I'm not saying he did the best job possible, but it would have been hard for anyone to do a good job in that situation; given the budget it was either a hefty tax increase or giant cuts. I'm sure Gary DelaRaba would have been very accommodating. And, if you're going to say taxes are all down to the schools, Suozzi's 19% increase isn't very meaningful and you can't blame the Dems for taxes either. You can't blame any politician if it's just the schools. Either the politicians bear responsibility, in which case the Republicans have to own up to the fact that they were in control for decades and can't lay it all on the Democrats, or they don't and both parties get off scot-free.

What you can't do is say that 7 years of Democratic control mean everything and 40 years of the GOP mean nothing.
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Old 08-29-2008, 07:13 AM
 
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Nice try. Suozzi's been using the same logic for almost 7 years now. He's way beyond the point of being able to blame Republicans any more.

And by the way, Republicans did not drive up property taxes on Long Island (you can thank the school districts for that.) The Gulotta administration in Nassau County held the line on the county portion of property taxes for many years. Did you forget the 19% increase that Suozzi enacted shortly after taking office? And wait for the next double-digit increase.
He moved Nassau's bond rating away from "junk" status, which was fiscally responsible. The Republicans hide tax raises by simply generating debt, which is just passing the buck to later administrations.
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Old 08-30-2008, 06:24 AM
 
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You guys are funny. The Republicans who controlled Nassau county before Suozzi were not "real" Republicans. They were Democrats in fake GOP clothing. There was no fiscal responsibility at all. (Suozzi and the other local Dem politicians are even worse.) The Nassau Republicans for many years are like G W Bush and the current Congress...spend spend spend. That's not what a real Republican is.

Real Republicans are what you see in North and South Carolina and in the Texas technology corridor. Why do you think those states are kicking our ass?? Because smart politicians lowered taxes, cut wasteful spending and made it very attractive for new industries to set up shop there.

It's unfortunate that the old liberal Northeast politics continues to hamper this area.
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Old 08-30-2008, 08:42 AM
 
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You guys are funny. The Republicans who controlled Nassau county before Suozzi were not "real" Republicans. They were Democrats in fake GOP clothing. There was no fiscal responsibility at all. (Suozzi and the other local Dem politicians are even worse.) The Nassau Republicans for many years are like G W Bush and the current Congress...spend spend spend. That's not what a real Republican is.

Real Republicans are what you see in North and South Carolina and in the Texas technology corridor. Why do you think those states are kicking our ass?? Because smart politicians lowered taxes, cut wasteful spending and made it very attractive for new industries to set up shop there.

It's unfortunate that the old liberal Northeast politics continues to hamper this area.
I guess that you don't believe that Ronald Reagan was a "real" Republican either, since he was big on huge deficit spending.

Or is it just, that some people refuse to blame Republicans for anything bad because their ideology says it can't be so?
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