Who will be our next president? (Rush, Jay: resort, liberal, street)

[GigiBowman]

How apprapoe that I should get this in my email today:

I knew someone would find a name for our election process for this year.



Electile Dysfunction : The inability to become aroused over any of the choices for President put forth by either party in the 2008 election year.

[dman72]

Originally Posted by GigiBowman

where are you guys getting your news from? lol

WABC owned by who?
FOX owned by who?
CNBC owned by who?
CNN owned by who?
on and on and on.....

you tell me who's news is the right news?

This is 1984 baby....a you're being told what whomever owns the media wants you to hear. Nevermind that who owns the media.....seems to be shrinking as more of the same buy up more of the media.....

http://www.cjr.org/resources/ownership.phpl (broken link)

Take Back The Media! Who Owns The Media?

Again, all I know is that when saying things about candidates as if they are facts, you post links to opinion pieces from obviously biased blogs as evidence. Going to ABC or a reputable newspaper or magazine would at least be a start.

[GigiBowman]

Originally Posted by dman72

Again, all I know is that when saying things about candidates as if they are facts, you post links to opinion pieces from obviously biased blogs as evidence. Going to ABC or a reputable newspaper or magazine would at least be a start.

I don't consider ABC reputable.

[dman72]

Originally Posted by GigiBowman

I don't consider ABC reputable.

Well, judging from where you pull your "evidence" from..the same places that claim that the NY times and network news are communists bent on the destruction of America..that's not a surprise.

[GigiBowman]

can't wait until the Dolans will be telling us Long Islanders everything we need to know in the newspaper and on tv:

News 12 Networks - Newsday.com

[Seann]

These are exactly the kinds of voters who will get us a 4 year extension of the worst 8 years any any administration has ever given this country. They love the country that much...... the lies on this thread flow fast and free.

Obama — or rather his handlers, consisting of dedicated minions who work for the global elite, the international bankers, the corporate fascists — are serious, dead serious, about creating a “domestic security force.”

This statement is pure comedy because it's McCain's economic advisor, Phil Gramm, (he wrote his big economic speech a few weeks ago) who was lobbying for foreign banks to stop banking regulation in this country. His economic speech pretty much amounted to tough luck for the American home owner suffering at the hands of the mortgage crisis. The guy called Americans suffering from high unemployment, $4 gas, and the housing crisis a bunch of winers while he was shilling for big banks. He was forced to step down from his post, but he's still giving McCain economic advice.

Obama doesn't advocate the creation of any home made "gang," which is what you're inferring. The national guard and the police are "domestic security forces" and I doubt your quivering at the though of them. But with Obama there's going to be some black panther style security force roaming our streets.

These are blatant lies aimed at covering up your visceral reaction to the candidate.

[dman72]

Originally Posted by Seann

These are exactly the kinds of voters who will get us a 4 year extension of the worst 8 years any any administration has ever given this country. They love the country that much...... the lies on this thread flow fast and free.



This statement is pure comedy because it's McCain's economic advisor, Phil Gramm, (he wrote his big economic speech a few weeks ago) who was lobbying for foreign banks to stop banking regulation in this country. His economic speech pretty much amounted to tough luck for the American home owner suffering at the hands of the mortgage crisis. The guy called Americans suffering from high unemployment, $4 gas, and the housing crisis a bunch of winers while he was shilling for big banks. He was forced to step down from his post, but he's still giving McCain economic advice.

Obama doesn't advocate the creation of any home made "gang," which is what you're inferring. The national guard and the police are "domestic security forces" and I doubt your quivering at the though of them. But with Obama there's going to be some black panther style security force roaming our streets.

These are blatant lies aimed at covering up your visceral reaction to the candidate.

But they are posted on a blog, which means they have more validity than ABC news and the NY Times, which has decades of reputable and accurate reporting behind it, but have no validity because their goal is to indoctrinate us with leftist ideas..well, at least that's what Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity told me when I was driving today, and they wouldn't lie to me, would they?

[Seann]

These are hardcore, wingnut voters who will never be swayed by facts or reason. Campaigns really don't target this group because their vote is in the bag.

There's a difference between having an 'ideological slant' and 'distorting facts'. Fox News distorts the facts: Pushing the Obama is a Muslim story, attributing statements made by Rev Wright as statements made directly by Obama, stating that he will raise taxes on the middle class when he's repeatedly stated that he only intends to raise them on the highest earning 2%, etc, etc.

The Times, though left leaning, does not blatanly lie in print the way Fox News does. Have there been holes in their fact checking? Sure, all media outlets have that problem, but with Fox it goes far beyond faulty research and strikes to the heart of their journalistic integrity.

In Fox's defense: When the policies you've espoused have been thoroughly discredited over the past 8 years, you're left with no other option than distorting facts.

[fopt65]

Originally Posted by Seann

These are hardcore, wingnut voters who will never be swayed by facts or reason. Campaigns really don't target this group because their vote is in the bag.

There's a difference between having an 'ideological slant' and 'distorting facts'. Fox News distorts the facts: Pushing the Obama is a Muslim story, attributing statements made by Rev Wright as statements made directly by Obama, stating that he will raise taxes on the middle class when he's repeatedly stated that he only intends to raise them on the highest earning 2%, etc, etc.

The Times, though left leaning, does not blatanly lie in print the way Fox News does. Have there been holes in their fact checking? Sure, all media outlets have that problem, but with Fox it goes far beyond faulty research and strikes to the heart of their journalistic integrity.

In Fox's defense: When the policies you've espoused have been thoroughly discredited over the past 8 years, you're left with no other option than distorting facts.

Don't you remember this guy from the NY Times?
CNN.com - New York Times: Ex-reporter faces fraud inquiry - May. 13, 2003

[Seann]

Fopt65.

Those are bad apples, I'm referring to bad oranges.

Jayson Blair "plagiarized;" he didn't use his position to carry out political smear campaigns based on lies, the way Fox News does.

Big difference.