Bradley effect in L.I

[Jrprofess]

Originally Posted by Smash255

Just to make a correction, Long Island did not vote for Bush in 2004, the last time it voted for the GOP Presidential candidate was 1988.

Really? I thought the Newsday article from a while back tilted to Bush in '04, when comparing to Kerry. Thanks, I appreciate the correction. I do though still feel that there is little motivation/compulsion on Long Island to walk out of a voting center and cover-up that you voted for McCain. At least in my Township...

[Smash255]

Originally Posted by Jrprofess

Really? I thought the Newsday article from a while back tilted to Bush in '04, when comparing to Kerry. Thanks, I appreciate the correction. I do though still feel that there is little motivation/compulsion on Long Island to walk out of a voting center and cover-up that you voted for McCain. At least in my Township...

Kerry did win it, the margin was quite a bit smaller in 04 than it was in 2000 which is what you might have been thinking of.

[nancy thereader]

I had an Obama/Biden sticker on the back of my car, under my "I love being retired" sign and I took it off because some guy in a huge truck followed really close on Route 110 and shouted, " Real Americans have FLAGS ! "
I have a very small car and I felt intimidated.

[Seann]

I share that conservative perception of Long Island along with Jrprofess. One reason the Republican mantra of "small gov't' has been so effective in recent decades is because many Whites hold the belief that their tax money will be used to fund programs aimed at aiding lazy minorities. I get crazy stories about Obama potentially giving people like Jeremiah Wright cabinet positions, and funding organizations like the NAACP with their tax dollars. It may sound absurd, but it's not far off from what many people actually believe.

That's why the term socialism has been so severely stigmatized in American society. I recall reading an interesting article in the NY Times approx a year ago which asserted that American society would be as liberal as Europe's, if we were an all white country. They used studies to analyze our attitudes on charity, for instance, and they found that we were a very charitable society when it came to donating our money to foreigners, but it doesn't apply to people suffering here. An attitude spawned from the assumption that our money will be transferred to lazy minorities. Europeans are more charitable to their own citizens.

Remember Reagan's often used story about the "strapping 'young buck' using food stamps to buy T-bone steaks?" He repeatedly used that line while campaigning in the South in support of small gov't and states rights for a reason.

Ohbeehave:

I'm starting to worry about where you actually retrieve information on both candidates. Remember McCain's line about not being concerned of we stayed in Iraq for fifty or a hundred years??

The line was taken out of context to a degree, because he wasn't referring to a one hundred year war in Iraq, he was referring to a fifty or one hundred year occupation.....the likes of which we embarked on in South Korea and Germany. Do you want our troops to have a permanent presence in Iraq, they way we do in South Korea and Germany?

Obama has been calling for a troop withdrawal time table, so has the prime minister of Iraq. Even the Bush administration has come full circle recently by agreeing to a time table for withdrawal with the Iraqi government. McCain is the only one who still advocates staying in Iraq INDEFINITELY until the war is won....whatever that means, no matter how long it takes. When will this war be won? Fifty...and hundred years?

So who really wants to keep our troops in the Middle East indefinitely? lol

[samnyc]

McCain favorite song is Bomb Bomb Bomb IRAN. If MCaine comes, I am 100% sure, he will find some thing to start some kind of war with IRAN. He may not do that at 2009, but he will try around 2011. Maybe our gas price will come to $0.99. LOL.

[GCGuy]

Bam Bam, woo hoo.