Burned out abandoned houses in New Cassel (Hempstead, Freeport: section 8, crime)

[GCGuy]

Hold on to your wallet and run...New Cassel is not Utopia.

[Danielle Westbury]

heres what i dont understand... if someone is so unhappy about where they live or what is happening in the area..wouldnt u move???? why stay??

ps.. i love westbury granted im in BH section but still love it here.

[Johninwestbury]

Originally Posted by Danielle Westbury

heres what i dont understand... if someone is so unhappy about where they live or what is happening in the area..wouldnt u move???? why stay??

ps.. i love westbury granted im in BH section but still love it here.

I'm just saying there are problems that's all. This is the problem with ppl, they deny the problems and dont nip it in the bud and then it gets out of control. We need to be pro-active not re-active when it comes to preserving the quality of life in our neighborhoods.

[Danielle Westbury]

Originally Posted by Johninwestbury

I'm just saying there are problems that's all. This is the problem with ppl, they deny the problems and dont nip it in the bud and then it gets out of control. We need to be pro-active not re-active when it comes to preserving the quality of life in our neighborhoods.

true but noone wants to do anythin about it everyone is all talk no action

run for mayor...

[Johninwestbury]

At least Strada is done, I dont think I have the political power for a Mayoral run, though. I go to the village meetings though and complain all the time. Strada hates me!

[omigawd]

Originally Posted by Johninwestbury

But sometimes these places become like "projects" in the city, full of gangs and drug addicts.

There is low income housing on LI and NONE of these places could ever be like the projects in NYC.... Have you ever been in the projects in NYC? I have. And they make the WORST parts of LI look like paradise.

As far as loads of satellite dishes go, ask yourself if you see homes like these in Plainview, Levittown, New Hyde Park, and other towns with similar housing stock. I dont. Why? Because they aren't as many illegal apartments.

And you "know" these apartments are legal or illegal??? Just by looking at them????? STOP making assumptions and judgment calls

And if you think I'm "making this up" I know someone who installs Direct TV and he says its very common in New Cassel as well as Huntington station where he does alot of all cash installs for illegals in illegal apartments. Usually you got about 10-20 guys in the house and they pay him all in cash since they have no credit.

Wrong again. You don't pay the tech who installs your cable, Direct TV or Dish Network. That is all done when you apply for service. YOu're either paying in advance for installation/service or it's billed to you. If this tech is telling you people are paying him cash, then he's doing something underhanded and probably taking money from people who don't know better. On the other hand, he could be lying or exaggerating to you as well. I'm sure he stands there, taking a head count of how many people live in the house, too.

Apparently Direct TV doesn't check your credit if you pay all cash up front.

Absurd....so you're implying that Direct TV is part of this big conspiracy to make the "illegals" feel more at home??? By not checking their credit because they're paying cash??? Hate to break it to you, but when you apply for service, they don't ask how you'll be paying your bill each month. They simply install your service and send you a bill.

[Johninwestbury]

Some of those projects in Glen Cove (on the hill) and in Hempstead (Terrace) look every bit as bad as the city. It's one thing New Cassel doesn't have...not yet anyway.

[I_Love_LI_but]

I think some of you folks are being too harsh on John. He has a right to be concerned about some of the things going on in Westbury. Westbury is a nice town and it doesn't deserve to be trashed by illegal aliens.

I don't think John is a racist. If, for instance, the illegal aliens were unskilled non-hispanic whites (eastern europeans, russians, etc.), I think he would have the same complaints. I don't think he complains because the illegal aliens trashing Westbury are mostly hispanic.

As for flophouses, they do exist and the thing that bothers me the most about them is they can be DEATH TRAPS for the residents.

Remember the 1 family house in Babylon that was condemned, yet chopped up into apartments where several residents (including a child) died from carbon monoxide poisoning?

Remember the house in the Bronx that was overcrowded with immigrants where several women and children died?

These tragedies didn't have to happen. Communities should have standards and enforce them. Especially on LI, considering the taxes we are paying to live here.

I live in an incorporated village (mainly middle class, not wealthy or exclusive) and it is tough on housing standards. Result? We don't have an illegal alien problem. When communities, such as Westbury, are lax, word gets around, more people hoping to game the system flood into it, and the quality of life problems get worse for all residents.

I hope the current politicians are voted OUT that have jurisdiction over Westbury and the new ones voted in work diligently on maintaining safe and decent housing for all.

As for "low income" housing ... it is not all good and better than in NYC just because it might be located on LI. I think the housing we need is NOT low income housing (where there is only a maximum family income requirement), but low to moderate income housing (where there is both a MINIMUM family income and maximum family income requirement) so that it serves WORKING families.

[I_Love_LI_but]

Let me modify this:

Originally Posted by I_Love_LI_but

I don't think John is a racist. If, for instance, the illegal aliens were unskilled non-hispanic whites (eastern europeans, russians, etc.) causing the same problems as Westbury's current illegal aliens, I think he would have the same complaints. I don't think he complains because the illegal aliens trashing Westbury are mostly hispanic.

[sean sean sean sean]

Yeah but the thing is, a lot of the claims seem to be exaggerated to the point of hysteria. Check the posts earlier in this thread about the plexiglass windows at the Chinese place. It's one thing to make a mistake (I make plenty of them), but I think it's fair to say that deciding you saw something you didn't, from a bus window at 30MPH and make it your thesis statement for why a whole community is going down the tubes certainly speaks to how much credibility a lot of these claims deserve. I'm sure a lot of what he posts is true, but who can tell the fact from fiction? We're all adults here, we can be spared the hysterics and drama.

Question on the low income/public housing: They don't give these to people who aren't legal citizens, do they?

The whole thing just seems strange to me. There's no doubt in my mind that these so called "flophouses" do exists throughout Westbury and New Cassel (though certainly not in the numbers we're lead to believe on here, which recall images of Bronx tenements in the 1970s). For the record, the average New Cassel household is 4.5 people, compared to 3.0 people countywide. If that statistic isn't the opposite of alarming, I don't know what is. What is the village or town supposed to do? Call in the cops and have them round up every extra 1.5 human being per home, stick them in the paddy wagon and drive them back to Mexico? I'm sure some of you would love that, but that's not reality. If the demand for overcrowded housing is there, then the supply will shortly follow. The Town of North Hemsptead recently tried to re-write their zoning laws for accessory apartments to try and get some control over (and tax revenue from) illegal rentals, but the residents absolutely would not have it. You guys can't have it both ways up there, you can't complain about the "problem" and then refuse to make any compromises whatsoever.

Maybe it's possible that nothing has been done because there is no real problem. People who live in the community are content living there and people who live outside of it are content telling their ghost stories and feeling so splendidly middle class and accomplished in life that they don't have to live in such a wretched place where 1.5 more people than normal occupy any given household.