Dear Red States ... A Classic. (Nassau, Benton: crime, good schools, university)

[Smash255]

Originally Posted by azzurrony

Funny how those red states of N. Carolina, S. Carolina, Texas, and Utah have been among the most forward thinking in the tech sector, research and development, biotech, energy, etc. and that their economies have created more new jobs than many blue states combined. I wonder why that is?

Keep in mind the areas of these states that lead in these industries don't exactly match the rest of the state.

I wouldn't exactly put SC in the boom of the tech sector. The boom in utah has primarily been in Salt Lake City, which Obama won. In Texas it has primarily been around Austin (Obama won Travis County by 29). North Carolina was actually won by Obama, and the bulk of the tech sector growth is in the Raleigh area a region Obama racked massive margins. 15% in Wake, 45% in Orange and 52% in Durham

[bluenoter]

Originally Posted by Smash255

Keep in mind the areas of these states that lead in these industries don't exactly match the rest of the state.

I wouldn't exactly put SC in the boom of the tech sector. The boom in utah has primarily been in Salt Lake City, which Obama won. In Texas it has primarily been around Austin (Obama won Travis County by 29). North Carolina was actually won by Obama, and the bulk of the tech sector growth is in the Raleigh area a region Obama racked massive margins. 15% in Wake, 45% in Orange and 52% in Durham

All new jobs in America are being created in the Red States. The populations of Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas are exploding due to job creation.

Red States generally have lower taxes due to lack of corruption. (Aside from Louisiana)

[Diane Giam]

Originally Posted by bluenoter

All new jobs in America are being created in the Red States. The populations of Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas are exploding due to job creation.

Red States generally have lower taxes due to lack of corruption. (Aside from Louisiana)

I agree, I'm orginally from LI and moved to Nashville. Major corporations are moving here for the tax advanages plus we have no state income tax. In the 2 years that I'm here I've seen Nissan move from California, Car Makers from Michigan, Verizon Wireless just openned a big Call Center in Franklin, TN to add to the one they had in Murfreesboro. There is a big health care meca here where major conferences are held here. We did host a debate this year.
In 2 years I've seen the tranformation of the downtown area.
We have no state income tax,plus I pay $3500 txs for a 4500sq ft brick house
built in 2002, with a great location.
The Red States are not doing that bad.

Diane G

[bluenoter]

Originally Posted by Diane Giam

I agree, I'm orginally from LI and moved to Nashville. Major corporations are moving here for the tax advanages plus we have no state income tax. In the 2 years that I'm here I've seen Nissan move from California, Car Makers from Michigan, Verizon Wireless just openned a big Call Center in Franklin, TN to add to the one they had in Murfreesboro. There is a big health care meca here where major conferences are held here. We did host a debate this year.
In 2 years I've seen the tranformation of the downtown area.
We have no state income tax,plus I pay $3500 txs for a 4500sq ft brick house
built in 2002, with a great location.
The Red States are not doing that bad.

Diane G

Toyota is just now opening an auto factory in Tupelo, Mississippi.

Manufacturers are locating in the South because the unions don't have a stronghold.

[I'minformed2]

I wouldn't really consider myself a pro-union advocate or anthying like that....but I lived in the south (NC) for almost 13 years;and because of the low-pay non-union jobs companies bring down there, ouside of the major metro areas with highly educated and skilled populaces (RDU, Charlotte, Atlanta, Nashville) the standard of living is very low; especially in the rural south. Most of the jobs that arent management/research level jobs that come down south with those companies barely pay enough to live off of; hence the much higher poverty rates in small town/rural southern areas than those in the Northeast and midwest (much higher crime rates too). Unions may have a lot of members who believe they are entitled to everything under the sun and want to do as little work as possible and get paid as much as they can for it and those people should be ashamed of themselves. But I don't think that's the majority of union members and that is definitely NOT the general philosophy behind unions.

[bluenoter]

Originally Posted by I'minformed2

I wouldn't really consider myself a pro-union advocate or anthying like that....but I lived in the south (NC) for almost 13 years;and because of the low-pay non-union jobs companies bring down there, ouside of the major metro areas with highly educated and skilled populaces (RDU, Charlotte, Atlanta, Nashville) the standard of living is very low; especially in the rural south. Most of the jobs that arent management/research level jobs that come down south with those companies barely pay enough to live off of; hence the much higher poverty rates in small town/rural southern areas than those in the Northeast and midwest (much higher crime rates too). Unions may have a lot of members who believe they are entitled to everything under the sun and want to do as little work as possible and get paid as much as they can for it and those people should be ashamed of themselves. But I don't think that's the majority of union members and that is definitely NOT the general philosophy behind unions.

I don't know why everyone on Long Island doesn't move to Dallas, Nashville, Oklahoma City, Bentonville, Ark. etc.

Almost everything in these areas are brand new. New buildings, restaurants, homes, golf courses, business, opportunity, optimism. The future is in the South.

People in the know from New York & California are moving to where there is opportunity.

The Red States are financially stable, and people are becoming wealthy. Come on down!!!

[Alexus]

Excellent post! Best I've seen in quite some time!

Proud to be a Yankee!

[Smash255]

Originally Posted by bluenoter

I don't know why everyone on Long Island doesn't move to Dallas, Nashville, Oklahoma City, Bentonville, Ark. etc.

Almost everything in these areas are brand new. New buildings, restaurants, homes, golf courses, business, opportunity, optimism. The future is in the South.

People in the know from New York & California are moving to where there is opportunity.

The Red States are financially stable, and people are becoming wealthy. Come on down!!!

The cost of living differences are generally canceled out by MUCH lower wages, the crime rates in those areas tend to be MUCH higher than Long Island, with schools which aren't even remotely close in quality to Long Island.

[bluenoter]

Originally Posted by Smash255

The cost of living differences are generally canceled out by MUCH lower wages, the crime rates in those areas tend to be MUCH higher than Long Island, with schools which aren't even remotely close in quality to Long Island.

Why are so many New Yorkers moving south? I talk to New Yorkers everyday here in Bentonville, Arkansas. A lot of New Yorkers are buying land in Arkansas. I see New York & New Jersey license plates all around Bentonville, Arkansas.

Something is quietly taking place in America. The Demographics are shifting to the south central states.

[Smash255]

Originally Posted by bluenoter

Why are so many New Yorkers moving south? I talk to New Yorkers everyday here in Bentonville, Arkansas. A lot of New Yorkers are buying land in Arkansas. I see New York & New Jersey license plates all around Bentonville, Arkansas.

Something is quietly taking place in America.

You have quite a few people who are near retirement or retiring taking the incomes they earned in NY and moving down south for the lower cost of living in retirement (my parents are doing just that as they are moving to S.C, just outside of Charlotte). In some cases the trade off might work out, they have jobs where the difference in incomes between the two areas might not be as large. However the fact of the matter is crime rates are much higher down south, the quality of the schools are much lower than LI (talking as a whole instead of doing the cherry picking of districts game) and the incomes are also far low. For example the median income in Bentonville is basically half of Nassau County, OkC its less than half of Nassau County

Anyway point is the trade off does work for some people which is why some have moved down there, but it surely isn't for everyone as you try to suggest.