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Old 10-16-2015, 07:00 AM
 
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DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK ONE-ON-ONE WITH THE PA ABOUT YOUR CONCERNS RELATING TO NEXTGEN? Well, here's your chance to do so.


The PA will be hosting a Public Information Workshop to provide information regarding the Part 150 Airport Noise Compatibility Planning Studies for JFK and LGA:


DATE: Thursday, October 29, 2015


TIME: 6 - 8 PM


PLACE: Nassau Community College (NCC)
College Center Building
Multipurpose Room

1 Education Drive
Garden City, NY 11530

Short Summary
Sec. 1: Short Title – FAA Community Accountability Act

Sec. 2: Flight Paths and Procedures – In implementing new flight paths through the NextGen program, the FAA:
· Must take action to limit negative impacts on the human environment in the vicinity of the airport; and,
· May adopt overlays of existing flight paths in order to ensure that the new paths are compatible with land use near the airport

Sec. 3: FAA Community Ombudsmen – Creates an office of the FAA Community Ombudsman in each FAA region to monitor the impact of NextGen implementation on affected communities, serve as liaisons between airport communities and the agency, and make policy recommendations to Congress and the FAA

Sec. 4: Community Engagement – FAA must notify and consult with the public if it intends to subvert the environmental review process through the use of a categorical exclusion under current law.

FAA may not use a categorical exclusion if an airport operator or Community Ombudsman notifies the FAA that proposed flight path changes will have “a significant adverse impact on the human environment in the vicinity of the airport.”

Sec. 5: Reconsideration of Certain Flight Paths and Procedures – Creates a new process for reviewing and potentially changing flight paths already implemented through the NextGen program.

If an airport operator or Community Ombudsman notifies the FAA that the new paths have had a significant negative impact on communities in the vicinity of the airport, the FAA Administrator must:
· Conduct a new environmental review;
· Provide an opportunity for public comment; and,
· Report to Congress on changes made to flight paths in response to public comments and the findings of the environmental review
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Old 10-16-2015, 08:23 PM
 
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I'll be there, though 1-on-1 gives them an opportunity to give different answers to appease the individual.....
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Old 11-25-2015, 06:40 AM
 
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There is movement on this issue. Keep logging your complaints and making sure your representatives are making your voices heard:

https://skyharbor.com/docs/default-s...d.pdf?sfvrsn=2

Editorial: An encouraging first step by the FAA | News | Palo Alto Online |

also,
Congressman Lynch (Ma) to host airplane noise forum with the FAA
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Old 12-14-2015, 11:01 AM
 
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More happenings:

Queens Crap: Koo asks FAA to divert flight paths
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Old 12-14-2015, 02:11 PM
 
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Thanks for this. It's been extremely terrible the past 7-days. Today being especially bad.
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Old 12-14-2015, 08:44 PM
 
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Thanks for this. It's been extremely terrible the past 7-days. Today being especially bad.
Yes, there are times in the early morning where the repetitive howling of the engines (one right after another) are enough to wake the dead.

Did the FAA / PA note that there would be follow up meetings? This is really becoming exhaustively disruptive.

Also read about the new A350 that short circuited on the lengthened runway yesterday at JFK. Just lovely.
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:48 PM
 
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Meetings with FAA bureaucrats accomplish very little as you can see from the below video of such a meeting in Seattle. The FAA's primary objective is "Operational Efficiency" which means getting as many planes as possible in and out of airports period



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-G899euMKY
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Old 12-16-2015, 07:01 AM
 
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Here is a link to the meeting in Milton, MA with the FAA. The country is fed up with NextGen. It doesn't work. The FAA needs to revert back to the ground based procedures and spread out flight paths until a new system is devised. They tried NextGen. It didn't work. Let's move on. The airline's profits should not be ahead of our well-being. ESPECIALLY not under the guise of safety.

Watch the December 3 Air Traffic Community Meeting on Milton Access TV - The Milton Scene

Keep the complaints going. Only way to represent in hard data that there is an issue. I know it is being annoying to have to do, and it feels like they are going unnoticed, but it is an important tool.

Place Complaints here:
Submit a Complaint | The Port Authority of New York & New Jersey

Use Google Chrome Browser to place these complaints and you can set up an AUTO FILL option which will auto fill most of the data on the page every time. This way, all you will have to fill in is the date, time, airport, arrival/departure, and fill in the capta code at the end.

You can download Chrome here for free:
https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/

To setup the auto fill, follow these steps. You only have to do it one time:
  1. Open Chrome.
  2. In the top right, click the Chrome menu .
  3. Click Settings > Show advanced settings.
  4. Under “Passwords and forms,” click Manage Autofill settings.
  5. Adjust your settings:
    • To add new address information, click Add new street address.
    • To edit address information, hover over the item and click Edit.
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Old 12-16-2015, 10:15 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Misfitg View Post
Here is a link to the meeting in Milton, MA with the FAA. The country is fed up with NextGen. It doesn't work. The FAA needs to revert back to the ground based procedures and spread out flight paths until a new system is devised. They tried NextGen. It didn't work. Let's move on. The airline's profits should not be ahead of our well-being. ESPECIALLY not under the guise of safety.

Watch the December 3 Air Traffic Community Meeting on Milton Access TV - The Milton Scene

Keep the complaints going. Only way to represent in hard data that there is an issue. I know it is being annoying to have to do, and it feels like they are going unnoticed, but it is an important tool.

Place Complaints here:
Submit a Complaint | The Port Authority of New York & New Jersey

Use Google Chrome Browser to place these complaints and you can set up an AUTO FILL option which will auto fill most of the data on the page every time. This way, all you will have to fill in is the date, time, airport, arrival/departure, and fill in the capta code at the end.

You can download Chrome here for free:
https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/

To setup the auto fill, follow these steps. You only have to do it one time:
  1. Open Chrome.
  2. In the top right, click the Chrome menu .
  3. Click Settings > Show advanced settings.
  4. Under “Passwords and forms,” click Manage Autofill settings.
  5. Adjust your settings:
    • To add new address information, click Add new street address.
    • To edit address information, hover over the item and click Edit.

Why do you sat NextGen "doesn't work?"
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Old 12-17-2015, 08:38 AM
 
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Why do you sat NextGen "doesn't work?"
It only works for the Airlines. It gets more and more planes taking off and landing. Great for the airlines, yet terrible for the people below these newly redesigned flight paths. Instead of spreading out the pain, they have put all of the noise burden on those homes under the flight paths. That is absolutely terrible.

Put it this way.....Look at the complaints before and after NextGen rolls out at each airport. The hugely dramatic rise in complaints should clearly demonstrate that the system is flawed. Whether or not you care about the facts is entirely a different issue.

The cold hard facts here are that communities are coming together and will be successful in forcing the FAA to revert flight paths, and if their local elected representatives can't assist them in the process, they will be out of a job. As more and more airports roll this system out, more and more communities will be up in arms. People have the power. Only a matter of time now.
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