Police Warning for Ice on the Sidewalk?!? (Glen Cove, Nassau: credit, house)

[mikeyc4582]

Originally Posted by dman72

Do you think that someone fighting with such persistence against all logic DOESN'T know the compensation? Of course they do.

I am holding out hope that LIM is someone with an emotional attachment to the cops and doesn't realize the extent the compensation is out of touch with reality.

[mikeyc4582]

Originally Posted by S.I.B.

Are you nuts? It's hard work writing speeding tickets and chasing kids out of parking lots. Give them a raise!

LOL LI is one of the safest areas in the country. It is certainly not akin to policing in NYC, that's for sure.

[dman72]

Originally Posted by S.I.B.

Are you nuts? It's hard work writing speeding tickets and chasing kids out of parking lots. Give them a raise!

Now to take the other side, that isn't accurate. SCPD, for instance, are first responders. If someone blows their head off, the see it first. If a baby dies of SIDs, they are there first. When a car flips over, they are usually the first people there to observe and deal with the carnage. I remember sitting in a repair shop when one of the guys working there had a seizure...cop is first on the scene.

It's not an easy job, not a job to ever be taken lightly, and there is always (in the case of SCPD VERY VERY SLIM) chance that you might not come home. ....I'm not sure how much worse the danger is than working the graveyard shift at 7 eleven unarmed, but I digress.


Now that I've said that, I'd like to hear ONE...I repeat ONE of the guys who come on this site fighting the PBA fight concede ONE SINGLE SOLITARY point relating to Police salaries.

I'm not sure there's one with the integrity to do such a thing.

And as for the danger:


http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/Careers/0...ger/index.html

[longislandmike]

HEY GUYS !

NO offense, but my HEAD, is spINNNNNNINGGGGGGG with all of this intellectual talk !

[longislandmike]

Originally Posted by mikeyc4582

LOL LI is one of the safest areas in the country. It is certainly not akin to policing in NYC, that's for sure.

It's probably another form of Hell...only MORE "whiter" in color, if you will, in certain LI localities !

[longislandmike]

Originally Posted by mikeyc4582

I am holding out hope that LIM is someone with an emotional attachment to the cops and doesn't realize the extent the compensation is out of touch with reality.

I don't look at "protecting my a**", strictly, in terms of dollars and cents.

I only want to know, there is that Thin Blue Line, between ME and my Own, and those Predators, "out there" !

[S.I.B.]

Originally Posted by dman72

Now to take the other side, that isn't accurate. SCPD, for instance, are first responders. If someone blows their head off, the see it first. If a baby dies of SIDs, they are there first. When a car flips over, they are usually the first people there to observe and deal with the carnage. I remember sitting in a repair shop when one of the guys working there had a seizure...cop is first on the scene.

It's not an easy job, not a job to ever be taken lightly, and there is always (in the case of SCPD VERY VERY SLIM) chance that you might not come home. ....I'm not sure how much worse the danger is than working the graveyard shift at 7 eleven unarmed, but I digress.


Now that I've said that, I'd like to hear ONE...I repeat ONE of the guys who come on this site fighting the PBA fight concede ONE SINGLE SOLITARY point relating to Police salaries.

I'm not sure there's one with the integrity to do such a thing.

And as for the danger:


Most dangerous jobs - CNN.com

I was obviously kidding. I recognize that it's a demanding and difficult job. My comment was a response to the over the top, ignorant, and ridiculous opinions of those on the other side of the argument. I felt they should see just how silly they look by reading a comment as misinformed as one of their own...

[dman72]

Originally Posted by S.I.B.

I was obviously kidding. I recognize that it's a demanding and difficult job. My comment was a response to the over the top, ignorant, and ridiculous opinions of those on the other side of the argument. I felt they should see just how silly they look by reading a comment as misinformed as one of their own...

Point taken, but there are plenty of people out there who actually think and believe things similar to what you said. I'm personally a little tired of the "cops/donuts" cliche's I hear all over the place. I have no issue with police work or the job SCPD does, I just don't think that everyone in Suffolk County should be paying to make a select group of guys rich because of bad and corrupt government.

[S.I.B.]

Originally Posted by dman72

Point taken, but there are plenty of people out there who actually think and believe things similar to what you said. I'm personally a little tired of the "cops/donuts" cliche's I hear all over the place. I have no issue with police work or the job SCPD does, I just don't think that everyone in Suffolk County should be paying to make a select group of guys rich because of bad and corrupt government.

agreed. I don't even begrudge the cops for what they get. I'd never knock a person for making the best living they can. Just admit that the salaries and benefits are what they are because of a strong union and and incompetent county leadership...

[DeadPool1998]

All I care about is that working class is throwing working class under the bus. We can quibble about the parameters of middle class, but rich kids in Glen Cove are not giving up running mommy's company for a plum cop job. Let's not be dumb. These are working class men and women, people like you and me, with good paying jobs.

The concern isn't that they are paid too much, whatever that means. The concern is that they are paid MORE than the people complaining. They don't like that these people are living better than they are, and that they are footing the bill for what appears to be a relatively better lifestyle. That seems unfair to many, and I understand that.

The real problem here, however, is that people are making less. Cops aren't making more. Since 1970, salaries for working class people have declined. Because of strong unions in public sector jobs, however, allow police officers to be compensated in a manner inconsistent with national historical pay trends.

That GDP has continued to increase, even explode, since 1970 is rarely considered by those complaining. Moreover, the average American worker is more productive than most any other on earth, and we work longer hours. So we worker more, we work harder, and we are paid less.

Americans love a scapegoat. You are angry at the cops. I think that is fratricide. Blame Wall Street. Blame Republicans & Clinton. Blame right-to-work. Blame NAFTA. Don't blame the man/woman who patrols your street at 3:00 AM.

I think cop, firefighter, and union auto workers MUST exist to remind us about how our parents lived in the 50's and 60's and the promise that America once held.