Suffolk County Police days off? (Union: transfer, compensation, legal)

[ClarkStreetKid]

It was approved by your local representatives during negotiations with the SCPD's representatives. It's a contract so you'll probably have to wait for negotiations to come up again.

You may want to do a search on the topic as it has been done to death.

Here are two old threads to get you up to speed.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/long-...er-police.html
http://www.city-data.com/forum/long-...trim-back.html

[pdcnret]

Before everyone starts getting their shorts all twisted again, understand that the Suffolk County executive is grandstanding with an inaccurate interpretation of the police contract. For instance, street cops work rotating shifts and don't get holidays off unless they happen to fall on a day they're not scheduled to work; so scratch the 13 holidays off. Also, although cops earn 26 sick days per year, the only circumstance in which all 26 may be used is for an extended -- and verified -- illness. Any abuse of sick leave brings disciplinary action. The vast majority of cops use significantly less than 26 days per year. Scratch another 26 days.

The actual total of days off available to Suffolk cops is significantly lower than what the county executive is portraying. And don't forget, these are not new contractual items -- they've been around for years, negotiated by the county and the police union. There's nothing new here, folks, just an attempt by a politician to fan the flames.

[mikeyc4582]

Originally Posted by ClarkStreetKid

It was approved by your local representatives during negotiations with the SCPD's representatives. It's a contract so you'll probably have to wait for negotiations to come up again.

You may want to do a search on the topic as it has been done to death.

Here are two old threads to get you up to speed.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/long-...er-police.html
http://www.city-data.com/forum/long-...trim-back.html

I saw the other threads but neither mentioned all of the vacation time in the same detail as the ny post editorial. Additionally, neither thread mentioned what we as residents can do to end this craziness.

[Crookhaven]

Originally Posted by pdcnret

Before everyone starts getting their shorts all twisted again, understand that the Suffolk County executive is grandstanding with an inaccurate interpretation of the police contract. For instance, street cops work rotating shifts and don't get holidays off unless they happen to fall on a day they're not scheduled to work; so scratch the 13 holidays off. Also, although cops earn 26 sick days per year, the only circumstance in which all 26 may be used is for an extended -- and verified -- illness. Any abuse of sick leave brings disciplinary action. The vast majority of cops use significantly less than 26 days per year. Scratch another 26 days.

The actual total of days off available to Suffolk cops is significantly lower than what the county executive is portraying. And don't forget, these are not new contractual items -- they've been around for years, negotiated by the county and the police union. There's nothing new here, folks, just an attempt by a politician to fan the flames.

Nonetheless Levy's right in exposing it, and its nice to see a Democrat stand up to a Union.

We all need to be in touch with our inner conservatives right now.

SCPD needs to reel it in big time.

The gravy train is over. I think the Sherriffs are doing a fine job in their stead.


crooks

[mikeyc4582]

Originally Posted by pdcnret

Before everyone starts getting their shorts all twisted again, understand that the Suffolk County executive is grandstanding with an inaccurate interpretation of the police contract. For instance, street cops work rotating shifts and don't get holidays off unless they happen to fall on a day they're not scheduled to work; so scratch the 13 holidays off. Also, although cops earn 26 sick days per year, the only circumstance in which all 26 may be used is for an extended -- and verified -- illness. Any abuse of sick leave brings disciplinary action. The vast majority of cops use significantly less than 26 days per year. Scratch another 26 days.

The actual total of days off available to Suffolk cops is significantly lower than what the county executive is portraying. And don't forget, these are not new contractual items -- they've been around for years, negotiated by the county and the police union. There's nothing new here, folks, just an attempt by a politician to fan the flames.

The patrol cops who must work holidays get time and a half in addition to the time they get b/c it's a holiday, correct? So even though they don't get the day off, they do get double time and a half for working that day? Wow that's ridiculous!!

As for the sick time, I was told that must SCPD cops do not take more than 5 sick days a year. That's because they will get reprimanded and refused transfers and terminations. Is this correct? If so, then why must we residents pay out for unused sick time when the cops retire? The point of that is so that cops don't abuse sick time, but the incentive to not abuse sick time is already present with the reprimands and promotion and transfer blocks. So why the pay out? Another ridiculous item that could go by the wayside.

I'm glad we have a county executive with the intenstinal fortitude to stand up to the pba. Keep up the good work Mr. Levy!!

[pdcnret]

You folks can get as indignant as you want. The fact is that the Suffolk PBA has a valid and legal contract with the county. If Levy or anyone else wants to eliminate benefits from the contract, he can negotiate them out of the next contract. Until then, it is what it is.

Let's not start another discussion about cops making too much money and getting too many benefits. It tends to get ugly real fast and will eventually get closed down.

[pdcnret]

Originally Posted by Crookhaven

Nonetheless Levy's right in exposing it, and its nice to see a Democrat stand up to a Union.

We all need to be in touch with our inner conservatives right now.

SCPD needs to reel it in big time.

The gravy train is over. I think the Sherriffs are doing a fine job in their stead.


crooks

Levy's exposed nothing, Clamboy. This has been part of their contracts for years. He's trying to stir the pot in response to the PBA protests about Sheriffs Deputies taking over the LIE. This is nothing but politics as usual.

[Crookhaven]

Originally Posted by pdcnret

You folks can get as indignant as you want. The fact is that the Suffolk PBA has a valid and legal contract with the county. If Levy or anyone else wants to eliminate benefits from the contract, he can negotiate them out of the next contract. Until then, it is what it is.

Let's not start another discussion about cops making too much money and getting too many benefits. It tends to get ugly real fast and will eventually get closed down.

Which is precisely what happens every time.

Lets keep it civil folks.

Hows about that Steve Levy?
Seems everybody loves him but the Unions?

Pretty odd for a Dem.

Hes got my vote.

Hed make a damn good Governor.

crooks

[nancy thereader]

Didn't Levy actually run unopposed the last time? That's really unusual.

[mikeyc4582]

Originally Posted by Crookhaven

Which is precisely what happens every time.

Lets keep it civil folks.

Hows about that Steve Levy?
Seems everybody loves him but the Unions?

Pretty odd for a Dem.

Hes got my vote.

Hed make a damn good Governor.

crooks

Nooo way... let's keep steve in Suffolk for another term... he still has a lot of work to do reigning in the SCPD. Taking highway patrol away from them was a real shrewed move. He has my vote and the vote of my entire nieghborhood. I guess that's the reason the republican party won't even contest him in an election.

I think police compensation should be discussed. We are paying for them... why should we just have to deal with that given the current economic climate?