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02-25-2009, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarkStreetKid
Circuit bit the big one because of bad management and some very reasonable sounding business choices that in reality were horrible. I worked there several times as a contractor/mentor on a couple of projects, and still drive by what will soon be their former corporate offices. I can't blame Wal-Mart for Circuit going under otherwise Best Buy would have also gone belly up.
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My implication is that stores within a certain category (in this case, Circuit City) will face competition from similar stores within that set (Best Buy)
i.e. Linens and Things (poor financial decisions and sales) to Bed Bath Beyond
I should have been more clear as I wasn't blaming WalMart for their demise.
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02-25-2009, 02:13 PM
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My mistake. I get to see the CC fall-out everyday, we have radio ads for sales of their office furniture.
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02-25-2009, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by leaana
Huh? if you paid attention to the banter, you would realize it's also about the product. not all products are necessarily that different such as most clothing, it's often the brand that increases the cost.
this comment was ridiculous even if the clothing was made in the united states. of course, you aren't going to get the same prices for clothing at a store like macy's compared to wal-mart. that's just plain stupid.
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That's twice you've questioned my intelligence. Is my low IQ that obvious?
BTW leaana, Do you work at Walmart?
An article on how Levi's got into Walmart.
Supply Chain Partnerships: How Levi's Got Its Jeans into Wal-Mart - CIO.com - Business Technology Leadership
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02-25-2009, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by alexei27
Most of the smarter towns have found ways to keep them out.
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Most of the smarter towns...and the entire state of Vermont! If only New York could follow that lead.
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02-25-2009, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarkStreetKid
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No, i don't work at wal-mart. Honestly, i don't even buy most of my clothing at walmart, just usually socks and underwear. i have gotten a couple very good-quality jersey and windbreaker jackets there for a decent price though. But you can see how they serve a market for those who are not wealthy.
The thing is when people criticize, it should be an honest critique.
Being a conscientious consumer who focuses on getting the best quality for price and broadly slamming stores or where it was manufactured isn't indicative of a real conscientious consumer.
it's not just where but how it was manufactured. i don't want to buy foreign rugs manufactured by child slavery or indentured servants, for example. the lowest price at the best quality isn't my only concern.
the corporations are getting rich, and the savings are passed onto the consumer only because they are paying such heinously low wages.
now, most of these people are glad to have these jobs and no matter where it's manufactured it's the unfortunate nature of the business that the worker bee will be shafted more often than not.
ironicly, i don't care either way if americans decide to just buy american or manufacture thier own products. whether it be for the right reasons or not, it may be best or not the best outcome for those you would never meet.
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02-25-2009, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Fred314X
Most of the smarter towns...and the entire state of Vermont! If only New York could follow that lead.
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You sure about that ?
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. - Vermont
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02-25-2009, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by suzook
Wal mart has forced factories in the US to shut down. They buy most of thier goods from china. There is a special on tv that showed how they squeezed us companies out of buisiness. Wal Mart dosnt care about its employees either. This country needs to get back to manufacturing again. the problem is, it does cost a little more to manufacture here.
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I supposed Fabulous Target buys no products from CHINA, and has all their products handmade by Amish virgins??
OUR DEMAND for cheaper products, and the PRODUCT MANUFACTURER'S DEMAND for low production costs, has "forced factories in the US to shut down".
A relative of mine works for Evil Wal-Mart, and is very pleased, says she has never had nicer managers. She also has had two surgeries in the past three years, thanks to her MEDICAL INSURANCE, that she supposedly does not have.
The people who say all these things about Wal Mart, have obviously never worked retail.
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02-25-2009, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by leaana
The thing is when people criticize, it should be an honest critique.
Being a conscientious consumer who focuses on getting the best quality for price and broadly slamming stores or where it was manufactured isn't indicative of a real conscientious consumer.
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So now I'm not honest?  I don't believe I said where it was manufactured, just where it was sold.
I am not broadly slamming stores, just the Big W because it's focus is on driving price down no matter at what cost, and for us price is secondary to quality. I'm also critical of people who are willing to buy junk just so they can have something. In the old days poor folks would just do without.
Example of Walmart price: We got a bunch of Walmart gift cards when our first son was born. We bought a bunch of baby clothes from big W that literally fell apart after one washing. The price wasn't worth the lack of quality no matter how cheap.
My wife then started buying baby clothes off season from Gymboree at a good discount. The trick was guessing how big the kid would be when they would finally wear the clothes. Still the price was greater than W's by a good amount but all of the clothes made it through kid #1, kid #2 and the some will go to our grandkids. The rest was sold at yard sales still looking good.
Example of how to get quality for less: We bought our dining room set at an Ethan Allen scratch and dent store. I got good quality furniture for a good price, still higher than Walmarts, that has lasted us years. We had to wait about 18 months for a matching china cabinet to show up at the scratch and dent, but it did.
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02-25-2009, 03:17 PM
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We shop at DOLLAR TREE, for disposable, "paper" and cleaning stuff like that, so we have YOU ALL BEAT ! 
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02-25-2009, 03:17 PM
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Pls email me controversy instead of posting. Thks.
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Location: Nassau, Long Island
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Originally Posted by longislandmike
We shop at DOLLAR TREE, for disposable, "paper" and cleaning stuff like that, so we have YOU ALL BEAT ! 
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I get mine at the 99 cent store! Beat ya by a penny mike!!!!
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