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Old 03-09-2009, 02:31 PM
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Long Island is changing ,and I do not mean for the better. The illegals are taking over and nobody wants to see this. Hicksville is the prime example. If you have young children, think about how it will be 10 years from now. The schools are half minority and alot of them dont even speak english. Just because you dont want it to be,dosnt mean it isnt happening.
A couple of years ago we moved to Rockland County and thats when you see the big difference. You say it was 1 murder and its being sensationalized. My town hasnt had a murder in 32 years. You think Hicksville schools are good. You set the bar pretty low for your kids. Between robberies and shootings and murders the last few years, Hicksville is not a good town. The problem with people on this board is they will think everything is great until they are the victims. HAVE FUN IN YOUR DREAMLAND!
Nassau County just came off 43 year low crime rates so to say the area isn't changing for the better is not based off any factual information, but rather the view of it has gotten ore diverse so it must be getting worse with no basis in reality.

As far as the schools being half minority, what does that have to do with anything? If perhaps the district and the area in general was becoming a bit poorer then perhaps you would have some argument, but that isn't the case. The district and the area in general is just as middle class as it was 10 and 20 years ago. Fact of the matter is the schools in Hicksville score quite high across the board in New York state. Is the district on par with Jericho & Syosset? Of course not, but it is still a fine district, and the area still has extremely low crime. BTW what part of Rockland are you from?
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Old 03-09-2009, 02:43 PM
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Nassau County just came off 43 year low crime rates so to say the area isn't changing for the better is not based off any factual information, but rather the view of it has gotten ore diverse so it must be getting worse with no basis in reality.

As far as the schools being half minority, what does that have to do with anything? If perhaps the district and the area in general was becoming a bit poorer then perhaps you would have some argument, but that isn't the case. The district and the area in general is just as middle class as it was 10 and 20 years ago. Fact of the matter is the schools in Hicksville score quite high across the board in New York state. Is the district on par with Jericho & Syosset? Of course not, but it is still a fine district, and the area still has extremely low crime. BTW what part of Rockland are you from?
I think the over-reaction by many has to do with seeing a lot of brown people, regardless of how they carry themselves.

However, I personally have seen MS-13 gang attire in the Broadway Mall..I've never seen this anywhere else on LI personally, although I know it is there. Regardless of crime statistics, that is reason to be concerned.
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Old 03-09-2009, 02:59 PM
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I think the over-reaction by many has to do with seeing a lot of brown people, regardless of how they carry themselves.

However, I personally have seen MS-13 gang attire in the Broadway Mall..I've never seen this anywhere else on LI personally, although I know it is there. Regardless of crime statistics, that is reason to be concerned.

That may have more to do with the mall's proximity to New Cassel than anything to do with Hicksville, much like some of the problems that has occurred in the Green Acres mall may have more to do with its proximity to Queens than Valley Stream itself.

I'm not suggesting people shouldn't be concerned about certain things, nor am I suggesting Hicksville is some perfect place. However, just because an area has an incident here and there doensn't mean the area is all of a sudden going down hill, especially when the facts don't back it up.
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Old 03-09-2009, 03:26 PM
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That may have more to do with the mall's proximity to New Cassel than anything to do with Hicksville, much like some of the problems that has occurred in the Green Acres mall may have more to do with its proximity to Queens than Valley Stream itself.

I'm not suggesting people shouldn't be concerned about certain things, nor am I suggesting Hicksville is some perfect place. However, just because an area has an incident here and there doensn't mean the area is all of a sudden going down hill, especially when the facts don't back it up.
I wouldn't be so quick to blame New Cassel or Queens for either, ANYONE can go to these malls! Like other malls, this is kind of an island unto itself as well - not a legitimate part of the community. Hicksville is a very big area, you could live in Jericho or Plainview and be much closer to the mall than people who actually live in Hicksville! Should we label those places as unsafe too?

I also want to remind everyone that the guy who murdered that gas station attendant turned out to not be an illegal immigrant anyway. A few years ago, a white former cop murdered his ex-girlfriend at her place of employment in Hicksville. Where was the public outcry against white police officers and the worrying about how they were ruining the community then?
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Ugh, these threads make me sick and are the reason why I rarely frequent these boards. I wiffed on a home in Farmingville because of what i read here. It prompted me to go do research and what i came up with was basically that the reputation was based on something that happened years ago and is not exactly a trend for the area. Long story short after a few days I decided to go for it and make an offer but it was already in contract. Highly aggravating to say the least. I'm still kicking myself for hesitating on that one.
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Old 03-09-2009, 04:18 PM
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I wouldn't be so quick to blame New Cassel or Queens for either, ANYONE can go to these malls! Like other malls, this is kind of an island unto itself as well - not a legitimate part of the community. Hicksville is a very big area, you could live in Jericho or Plainview and be much closer to the mall than people who actually live in Hicksville! Should we label those places as unsafe too?

I also want to remind everyone that the guy who murdered that gas station attendant turned out to not be an illegal immigrant anyway. A few years ago, a white former cop murdered his ex-girlfriend at her place of employment in Hicksville. Where was the public outcry against white police officers and the worrying about how they were ruining the community then?

I just bought New Cassel up because of the MS mentions dman bought up, since New Cassel has had more of a history with MS-13 than Hicksville, but your right people from all over could be going to the mall, not just those that live in Hicksville and the surrounding communities.
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Ugh, these threads make me sick and are the reason why I rarely frequent these boards. I wiffed on a home in Farmingville because of what i read here. It prompted me to go do research and what i came up with was basically that the reputation was based on something that happened years ago and is not exactly a trend for the area. Long story short after a few days I decided to go for it and make an offer but it was already in contract. Highly aggravating to say the least. I'm still kicking myself for hesitating on that one.

The thing that happened a few years ago in Farmingville was an attack on 2 illegal immigrants.

People telling you not to buy in Farmingville were most likely telling you not to buy there because OF illegal immigrants, not because of the guys attacking them, who weren't from Farmingville. The illegal immigrant situation in Farmingville is not a myth..just drive down Portion Road.

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Yeah, i know that about the two immigrants. I also went ahead and looked over demographics of various areas as well as home prices and crime rates and nothing really correlated with having a large Hispanic population. Basically, I was told that it would affect resale value and after doing research it really didn't seem to be the case. I'm just really frustrated right now. I apologize.
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I think the over-reaction by many has to do with seeing a lot of brown people, regardless of how they carry themselves.

However, I personally have seen MS-13 gang attire in the Broadway Mall..I've never seen this anywhere else on LI personally, although I know it is there. Regardless of crime statistics, that is reason to be concerned.
For me it is ALL ABOUT how they carry themselves, behave,etc. I think that's the point most people are missing. If a group of Irish people came here, brought gangs, crime, and disease I would feel the exact same way.
Unfortunately some people do look at the race and that is the problem, and because of that minorities that are here legally and obey the law are treated the same way as illegals.
Many Americans of hispanic decent are against illegal immigration. You wont hear about it much on News 12 or Newsday. Except for those few places, like the Lou Dobbs show.

YouTube - CNN: Hispanic Americans speaking out against illegal aliens.
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Yeah, i know that about the two immigrants. I also went ahead and looked over demographics of various areas as well as home prices and crime rates and nothing really correlated with having a large Hispanic population. Basically, I was told that it would affect resale value and after doing research it really didn't seem to be the case. I'm just really frustrated right now. I apologize.

Eh, they are illegal immigrants who live in over occupied rental houses..you think they show up in the demographic data?

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