Is Baldwin, NY A Safe Neighborhood - Thinking of Buying a Home? (Hempstead: section 8, apartments)

[MegDrew]

Originally Posted by Coolhand68

Baldwin is bordered by Roosevelt and Freeport, two of the historically worst sections of Long Island. The writing is on the wall...literally and figuratively. I think Lynbrook or Rockville Center would be a better choice.

I'm curious: Do you really think Freeport is that bad, or are you just repeating what you've heard? I used to hear the same thing and believe it until I started looking to move out and get my own place. Guess where, after a bit of research, I ended up living?
I have heard that the school district is pretty bad, so perhaps Freeport isn't the place for a young family (though I do believe one gets out of school what one puts into it), but it has a lot of really nice areas. Also, it seems a lot of areas in the town are constantly being renovated and improved. (Even the "bad" area North of Sunrise is looking pretty nice lately).
Sorry to the OP for getting off topic, but I always hear about how bad Freeport is and I really happen to like it (as much as I can like it on crowded Long Island with its too-lengthy winters).
As for Baldwin, I've always thought it was a decent town, with good areas and bad areas like most of the South Shore.

[nancy thereader]

(as much as I can like it on crowded Long Island with its too-lengthy winters).

Speaking of that; why haven't we had a real spring yet? It's May already.

[ginovino]

[quote=sean sean sean sean;8597906]Wow, I thought I replied to this post last week....maybe it got deleted?

#1) You are completely wrong about the location of South Hempstead. What you're referring to is entirely in Baldwin, and no one "calls" this part of Baldwin "South Hempstead" either. The only thing I could imagine would possibly bring someone to believe this area is South Hempstead is if they got off the SSP one time in their life and noticed the green "South Hempstead" sign on the west side of Grand Avenue.

#2) South Hempstead is overwhelmingly white. Residents in this neighborhood send their children to RVC schools, it's a fairly desirable middle class area. There are also a minuscule number of homes zoned for Uniondale on the hamlets northwest end.

#3) I used to be in Baldwin every day, but I haven't been there much over the last 3 years. When I read your post, I was amazed that you singled out what I remembered as being some of the nicest blocks in that area (save for the immediate vicinity of Coes Neck Park, which is not too hot). So last week, stuck in traffic eastbound on the Southern State, I decided to hop off on Exit 20 and do a little tour of this area to see if it had gone down the tubes.

What I found was shocking: you are completely, and utterly, effing bonkers. I would love to know what it is exactly that is so terrifying about DeMott, Centennial and Carl. I saw nothing but pristine homes, finely manicured lawns, large well-maintained pre-war homes and tall shady trees. Exactly as I remembered...and generally much nicer than the vast majority of neighborhoods I've been through on LI (and I've been through almost all of them). What's even more strange about your "observation" is that you could go less than a 1/2 mile south and find much worse blocks to point out... is it possible these are the only three streets you've ever BEEN ON in Baldwin? Cuz that's what it sounds like to me..... No difference from Hempstead? From HEMPSTEAD??? Forget peyote, you're smoking PCP if you can't tell one side of the parkway from the other.

Moderator cut: Attack ideas, not the posters themselves please

Did it ever occur to you that a substantail number of the folks you just racially insulted which live in these "nice houses" come with "dozens of Cousins" and thus with multiple incomes can afford in the short term? Then the financial boom drops on them as it should. The housing collapse in the U.S. is part and parcel of this phenom,. People buying more house than they can afford or buy in the first place.

Given you live in Lily white North Wantagh, and not even Wantagh or Seaford!! What gives you basis for casting aspersions about the plight of those which live in the once MORE Highly desirable Baldwin / Baldwin Harbor. The last time I looked they where NO canals , Waterfront or water access in North Wantagh.

Its is likely you live in a expanded cape with 3 bedrooms and 2 baths, a quasi finished basement with a Homemade bar. A little house built about 1950, it must be bitter to suffer that. As opposed to the attached which is a real house , MY HOUSE.

Moderator cut: a little unkind, don't you think?

Continue to pay taxes on that bungalow you live in, and tell everyone who will listen how great it is in "NORTH" WANTAGH...

[bnyy]

Originally Posted by ginovino

Did it ever occur to you that a substantail number of the folks you just racially insulted which live in these "nice houses" come with "dozens of Cousins" and thus with multiple incomes can afford in the short term? Then the financial boom drops on them as it should. The housing collapse in the U.S. is part and parcel of this phenom,. People buying more house than they can afford or buy in the first place. Never 'racially insulted' anyone.

Given you live in Lily white North Wantagh, and not even Wantagh or Seaford!! What gives you basis for casting aspersions about the plight of those which live in the once MORE Highly desirable Baldwin / Baldwin Harbor. The last time I looked they where NO canals , Waterfront or water access in North Wantagh. We're not saying that we're better than people who live in Baldwin? Obviously you misread the other post. There are more white people in Wantagh and Seaford than North Wantagh buddy.

Continue to pay taxes on that bungalow you live in, and tell everyone who will listen how great it is in "NORTH" WANTAGH...

There's no place like NY. You'll realize that in Colorado where there's no such thing as a deli, crappy pizza and crappy chinese food.

[nancy thereader]

Let's try to be civil, folks.

[sean sean sean sean]

Originally Posted by ginovino

Did it ever occur to you that a substantail number of the folks you just racially insulted which live in these "nice houses" come with "dozens of Cousins" and thus with multiple incomes can afford in the short term? Then the financial boom drops on them as it should. The housing collapse in the U.S. is part and parcel of this phenom,. People buying more house than they can afford or buy in the first place.

LOL I racially insulted them how, by referring to them as "blacks"? I don't see how that's insulting at all, but I thought you were all about tearing down those PC walls anyway, what gives? I do think it's mildly insulting to assume a good portion of the "African-Americans" living in Baldwin can't afford to live there save for chipping in on a mortgage with their large, extended families, however.

Originally Posted by ginovino

Given you live in Lily white North Wantagh, and not even Wantagh or Seaford!! What gives you basis for casting aspersions about the plight of those which live in the once MORE Highly desirable Baldwin / Baldwin Harbor. The last time I looked they where NO canals , Waterfront or water access in North Wantagh.

Its is likely you live in a expanded cape with 3 bedrooms and 2 baths, a quasi finished basement with a Homemade bar. A little house built about 1950, it must be bitter to suffer that. As opposed to the attached which is a real house , MY HOUSE.

No, actually I live in an illegally converted apartment on the second floor of a Levitt ranch. 1 bedroom, 1 bathroom and a fridge full of Budweiser. Neighbors are cool, everyone gets along. What about my post could you possibly have interpreted as me criticizing people who live in Baldwin? You are either reading it completely wrong or you don't know the definition of the word "aspersions". I would say a good portion of Baldwin is still much more upscale than North Wantagh. Baldwin Harbor certainly is, as is the section you alleged had gone down the tubes. When did I suggest otherwise? I would be thrilled to be able to buy a home on DeMott Ave.

As bnyy pointed out, there are no bungalows anywhere in North Wantagh. You are curiously misinformed yet again...perhaps you were thinking of North Bellmore? Your comment about "take a look at a real house, MY HOUSE" is one of the most embarassingly low class statements I have ever read on these forums.

Originally Posted by ginovino

As for letting the door hit me in arse, I gather this is your best attempt at a put down, not bad for an "almost" high school grad. You probably work for county or local government and bitter about many things.

Continue to pay taxes on that bungalow you live in, and tell everyone who will listen how great it is in "NORTH" WANTAGH...

Nope, not a government employee. If you really want to know, I do auto body work and repair windshields on the side. Long hours, hard physical labor, but I love being on the road and meeting interesting people. I'm bitter about nothing, least of all the supposedly oppressive cost of living on Long Island. Check my 1200+ posts on C-D, I'm rarely a pessimist and never one to complain.

What I am happy about is that people like you are leaving LI in droves, we don't need this kind of attitude in 2009. You are a complete parody of every negative stereotype people attribute to this island.

Moderator cut: Attack ideas, not the posters themselves , sean, please.

[bnyy]

[quote=sean sean sean sean;8620643]LOL I racially insulted them how, by referring to them as "blacks"? I don't see how that's insulting at all, but I thought you were all about tearing down those PC walls anyway, what gives? I do think it's mildly insulting to assume a good portion of the "African-Americans" living in Baldwin can't afford to live there save for chipping in on a mortgage with their large, extended families, however.



No, actually I live in an illegally converted apartment on the second floor of a Levitt ranch. 1 bedroom, 1 bathroom and a fridge full of Budweiser. Neighbors are cool, everyone gets along. What about my post could you possibly have interpreted as me criticizing people who live in Baldwin? You are either reading it completely wrong or you don't know the definition of the word "aspersions". I would say a good portion of Baldwin is still much more upscale than North Wantagh. Baldwin Harbor certainly is, as is the section you alleged had gone down the tubes. When did I suggest otherwise? I would be thrilled to be able to buy a home on DeMott Ave.

As bnyy pointed out, there are no bungalows anywhere in North Wantagh. You are curiously misinformed yet again...perhaps you were thinking of North Bellmore? Your comment about "take a look at a real house, MY HOUSE" is one of the most embarassingly low class statements I have ever read on these forums.



Nope, not a government employee. If you really want to know, I do auto body work and repair windshields on the side. Long hours, hard physical labor, but I love being on the road and meeting interesting people. I'm bitter about nothing, least of all the supposedly oppressive cost of living on Long Island. Check my 1200+ posts on C-D, I'm rarely a pessimist and never one to complain.

What I am happy about is that people like you are leaving LI in droves, we don't need this kind of attitude in 2009. You are a complete parody of every negative stereotype people attribute to this island.


Well put .

[pd926]

ok The reason that they wouldnt pick a different school is because they know that the school district has African Americans and that way they would fit in more. When a lot of children are trying to get into a school district , they dont belong to ...they want to remain unnoticed.Try pulling that in Garden City and see how many parents want to know if these kids belong in their schools where they pay taxes. And I do not say this to be racist, Hicksville is known for this too and it is because it is not checked into accordingly.

[pd926]

BY the way, I love how everyone is now writing about how north of this street is a great area ...just dont go this way or turn down this street or dont worry , you might only get a petty theft in this neighborhood. I guess everyone is lowering their standards.

[I_Love_LI_but]

Originally Posted by bnyy

There are good neighborhoods there. I don't know what section, but recently a body was found in a dumpster in VS. The area around Green Acres Mall has a really bad reputation, including the mall. One kid walking home from school was robbed at gunpoint.

The dumpster thing was a domestic. Although a tragedy, it did not endanger any Valley Stream residents at large. A stepson killed his stepmother in a family dispute and then moved her body to a dumpster.

GA Mall is not as bad as people say. It actually got its initial bad reputation from people who lied claiming their car was stolen there. This happened too much and the police and some insurance companies did a joint investigation and found it was just people trying to get rid of their cars by claiming they were stolen in GA Mall's parking lot while they actually took their cars to the chop shops themselves. Many people got arrested for insurance fraud several years ago and now you don't hear anything about cars getting stolen in GA Mall parking lot. The damage was done though and plus other incidents have caused people to be frightened. I am not afraid of GA Mall. I go there at least every other weekend and never have a problem. Another thing is the GA Mall attracts a lot of people from the boroughs. I personally know people who drive all the way to GA Mall from the Bronx and SI. Some people are intimidated if there are not what they perceive as "enough white people" around. I don't notice nor do I count how many of what race are around me anywhere. Maybe I am missing something or since I work in Manhattan I am just more used to different types of people around me than the typical LI'er who never goes into NYC. As for the neighborhood around GA Mall, it is actually very nice and it used to be called "Green Acres Estates," but the people decided to change it's name to "Mill Brook" around the time of the phony car thefts.