Fender Bender: Need advice from Insurance people or Lawyer (etc) (Hope: credit report, tax return)

[pdcnret]

Originally Posted by djdairyp

OBEY!!!

spoken like a true fascist

So I'm guessing that you think that stopping for red lights and staying within speed limits, as well as registering and insuring your car are for other people. Apparently you're above those things.

The vehicle and traffic laws have as their primary objective the safety of all of those using the roadways of the state. Unfortunately, you don't get to choose which laws you want to obey. Try using that "fascist" remark to the next cop who pulls you over because you've decided that the laws don't apply to you.

[Hi, my name is...]

Originally Posted by pdcnret

And why is the law flawed? The state has a legitimate interest in knowing about accidents on its roadways, just as it has a legitimate interest in ensuring that drivers are licensed and cars are insured.

While you mock the post, see how quick your tune changes if a suspension notice arrives in the mail. You may have gotten away with not filing this time, but the next time you may not be so lucky. The law is the law ... just obey it and you won't have any problems. It's that simple.

If an accident happens and I want to deal with it on my own, the police can kiss my foot. The state's interest is ridiculous and if I want to handle things without involving the state I will. Big brother can **** off... and I will not obey ridiculous laws, sorry officer

[Hi, my name is...]

Originally Posted by pdcnret

So I'm guessing that you think that stopping for red lights and staying within speed limits, as well as registering and insuring your car are for other people. Apparently you're above those things.

The vehicle and traffic laws have as their primary objective the safety of all of those using the roadways of the state. Unfortunately, you don't get to choose which laws you want to obey. Try using that "fascist" remark to the next cop who pulls you over because you've decided that the laws don't apply to you.

Yes, definitely a fascist.

Running red lights is totally different than reporting something to the police that has nothing to do with them. The poster isn't saying he/she is above anything, just that blindly obeying the law is for fools. We are people, not robots. Telling us to obey no matter what only adds resentment, especially because those who enfore the law aren't the brightest bulbs in the box.

[pdcnret]

Originally Posted by Hi, my name is...

If an accident happens and I want to deal with it on my own, the police can kiss my foot. The state's interest is ridiculous and if I want to handle things without involving the state I will. Big brother can **** off... and I will not obey ridiculous laws, sorry officer

You have no idea what the state's interest in accidents is so you have no grounds for deeming them ridiculous.

I've read a bunch of your posts and you seem like a young pup with a lot of anger. Someday, when you grow up, you'll realize that it's the law that keeps us civilized (and keeps you safe when you're driving around.) Unfortunately, you don't get to violate a law because you don't like it. I'm guessing that you've been on the wrong side of a traffic stop at some point in your life.

[pdcnret]

Originally Posted by Hi, my name is...

Yes, definitely a fascist.

Running red lights is totally different than reporting something to the police that has nothing to do with them. The poster isn't saying he/she is above anything, just that blindly obeying the law is for fools. We are people, not robots. Telling us to obey no matter what only adds resentment, especially because those who enfore the law aren't the brightest bulbs in the box.

You don't read too well, either. As I stated, the law only requires a report to the state -- not the police (except where an injury occurs.)

Why is it that you believe that laws were made for other people and not for you? With your obvious distaste for obeying the law, again I'm guessing you've been on the wrong side of that traffic stop -- probably more than once. It was encountering people with your attitude that gave me the greatest pleasure when I wrote traffic tickets.

[Hi, my name is...]

Originally Posted by pdcnret

You don't read too well, either. As I stated, the law only requires a report to the state -- not the police (except where an injury occurs.)

Why is it that you believe that laws were made for other people and not for you? With your obvious distaste for obeying the law, again I'm guessing you've been on the wrong side of that traffic stop -- probably more than once. It was encountering people with your attitude that gave me the greatest pleasure when I wrote traffic tickets.

Sorry officer, my driving record is clean. And keep in mind I didn't say laws were beneath me, but I'm not bending over backwards to accomodate nonsense. People with a brain realize why laws are in place. They can also see through a BS nonsense law when it's there. Just because you were a cop (read: robot) and blindly follow all laws doesn't mean anyone who doesn't is a lifetime criminal. This isn't nazi germany and LI is not a police state, despite what cops like you believe.

[mathjak107]

driving is not a right, its a priveledge ...as such the issuing office of that priveledge wants to know how many and how ofton you were involved in accidents, how many points in violations you had and anything else they choose to know about making the decision to extend you that priveldge ......that even includes your health issues, your drug and drinking issues and what medications you maybe on......

its their bat , their ball and their playing field when it comes to making the rules for the privelege of driving ..... you can follow the rules or not, thats your choice and right but if they choose to make your driving priveledges vanish for not following their rules thats their right.

[mathjak107]

Originally Posted by Hi, my name is...

If an accident happens and I want to deal with it on my own, the police can kiss my foot. The state's interest is ridiculous and if I want to handle things without involving the state I will. Big brother can **** off... and I will not obey ridiculous laws, sorry officer

ha ha ha im just thinking of telling the pistol licensing division the same thing....

[pdcnret]

Originally Posted by Hi, my name is...

Sorry officer, my driving record is clean. And keep in mind I didn't say laws were beneath me, but I'm not bending over backwards to accomodate nonsense. People with a brain realize why laws are in place. They can also see through a BS nonsense law when it's there. Just because you were a cop (read: robot) and blindly follow all laws doesn't mean anyone who doesn't is a lifetime criminal. This isn't nazi germany and LI is not a police state, despite what cops like you believe.

Since you obviously have some insight (probably based on years of experience with the system) please tell us why the accident reporting laws are in place. I always thought that it was to gather information about types and locations of accidents, improve engineering at dangerous locations, identify drivers who have multiple accidents and may be a risk to themselves and others, and to ensure that those who drive (and have accidents) are licensed and insured, as well as many other reasons. I guess maybe I was wrong. Please enlighten me. Rolleyes (to borrow a phrase you're fond of using.)

As was pointed out, driving is privilege, not a right. It's their rules and their game. And I'm still thinking that you have been the recipient of some paper from one of those "fascist" cops you keep talking about.

[Hi, my name is...]

Originally Posted by mathjak107

ha ha ha im just thinking of telling the pistol licensing division the same thing....

I wouldn't say that to the pistol division b/c that law makes sense. Reporting an accident I am handling on my own is the government wanting to know any and everything. Yes driving is a priviledge but that doesn't mean I lose all my civil rights because I choose to drive, especially when the incompetent government cannot provide adequate public transportation. Reporting all your accidents, especially the ones that have no affect on anybody else, with the risk of being charged with a crime if you don't if just another example of the government stepping over the line.