Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New York > Long Island
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 04-22-2009, 02:48 PM
 
Location: East Northport
3,351 posts, read 9,756,661 times
Reputation: 1337

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by totallyfrazzled View Post
Shades of Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal"!

A Modest Proposal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Good to know that somebody got it!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-22-2009, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Ohio
668 posts, read 2,186,102 times
Reputation: 832
Hey, be glad that you have a job where you can pay so much, because you EARN so much!!!

A lot of us dont earn that type of money, where we can pay 10,000 + in taxes.. But, I sure would like to have it...

May the LORD Bless each of you.

I wish you well...

Jesse
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-22-2009, 03:07 PM
 
852 posts, read 2,016,890 times
Reputation: 325
Default Ron Paul wouldn't envision an America like this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TubaFish View Post
Gee, I_LOVE_LI_BUT, why don't you tell me how you really feel? HaHa



Actually this is not as bad of an idea as you might imagine. By ending public education, everybody can save a few tax dollars. Those who care enough and have the money will pay private tutors to educate their children. Those without the money (or desire) will not educate their children. The educated children will get good jobs, the uneducated will work for peanuts. The rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. Poor slobs. It's a good thing we have a HIGHLY paid police force that will protect the rich and industrious from the inevitably violent, poor proletariat.



Aww shucks, I didn't know you liked me so much. You know what's funny, though. Under this scenario, I would not only have my hands in your 401K, but also in that fat check you cut to Uncle Sam each year. I think I'll take the Job!!!

Ron Paul 2012, WooHoo!!!!
There really isn't anything funny, even remotely, in this post. This is some cruel, nasty Moderator cut: language .

Last edited by nancy thereader; 04-22-2009 at 03:22 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-22-2009, 03:18 PM
 
76 posts, read 179,426 times
Reputation: 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadPool1998 View Post
This population of teachers is already wasted, as they've grown accustomed to large salaries. The ultimate solution is to stick them on a train to a camp in Ronkonkoma - "Camp Hannity" - where they will staff a call center for United Airlines. When they get ill, we will just gas them, as paying to hospitalize them is much too costly. (Don't get me started on that - free market health care has been awesome for my stock portfolio, and the fewer of these wombed creatures that are treated, the better my dividend).

Then I think all the kids should be home-schooled. Then if the parents can't stay home to school them, then screw them. After all, we are all aware that children are only the problem of the parent. They never end up harming the community or anything like that. That's just sociological hogwash - "Clap-trap" as O'Reilly would put it.

Auction the schools off to private institutions and give a fat rebate back to the hard-working Americans who borrowed those funds from China.
And this is the rhetoric of teddy bears and children's stories?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-22-2009, 06:01 PM
 
852 posts, read 2,016,890 times
Reputation: 325
Default Satire

Quote:
Originally Posted by TubaFish View Post
And this is the rhetoric of teddy bears and children's stories?
Satire: Noun, Def. - the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.

You actually meant what you wrote.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-23-2009, 06:14 AM
 
929 posts, read 2,067,719 times
Reputation: 566
Quote:
I say let's fire the teachers, principals and administrators and close the schools


Wow, you're even more conservative than me. How about we just offer early graduation to 8th graders. We waste so much money educating people that have very little potential to ever repay the original investment.

That money can be refunded to the people who have worked hard in the private sector and can't pay their 10k property taxes on their 2,000 square foot ranch that was built in the 1950s.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-23-2009, 06:46 AM
 
Location: NHP, NY
294 posts, read 609,961 times
Reputation: 125
I think you have incomplete information that kind of precludes a level headed discussion from taking place. By that I mean, you'd need to look at what other LI professionals make in say the engineering and accounting fields since I think that's about the best you can do in terms of making a somewhat meaningful comparison to teachers. On an apples to apples basis, with similar education and experience, you'd need to see where those salaries fell (adjusted for the same amout of hours worked) in order to make any type of conclusion in terms of what group may be underpaid, overpaid, etc.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-23-2009, 07:20 AM
 
852 posts, read 2,016,890 times
Reputation: 325
Default Good post.

Quote:
Originally Posted by NHP Guy View Post
I think you have incomplete information that kind of precludes a level headed discussion from taking place. By that I mean, you'd need to look at what other LI professionals make in say the engineering and accounting fields since I think that's about the best you can do in terms of making a somewhat meaningful comparison to teachers. On an apples to apples basis, with similar education and experience, you'd need to see where those salaries fell (adjusted for the same amout of hours worked) in order to make any type of conclusion in terms of what group may be underpaid, overpaid, etc.
Good luck getting a reasoned discussion. Any request for support that ideas such as cutting salaries won't hurt education, morale, students, whatever, are met with more absurd gesticulations.

But you make an important point. I know a lot of people who could have easily have become lawyers, but who answered a call to teach instead. Their salaries should be compared, and I think if we do we will find that teachers are still woefully underpaid.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-23-2009, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Stony Brook
2,897 posts, read 4,405,066 times
Reputation: 2752
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadPool1998 View Post
Their salaries should be compared, and I think if we do we will find that teachers are still woefully underpaid.
Your joking, right?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-23-2009, 07:41 AM
 
Location: NHP, NY
294 posts, read 609,961 times
Reputation: 125
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadPool1998 View Post
But you make an important point. I know a lot of people who could have easily have become lawyers, but who answered a call to teach instead. Their salaries should be compared, and I think if we do we will find that teachers are still woefully underpaid.
I'm not sure I understand your point.

Are you saying that those teachers that could've "easily" gone into law should be compared to those that are actually lawyers or are you saying that teachers are "woefully" underpaid relative to other professional groups that I mentioned, such as engineers and accountants?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:




Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > New York > Long Island

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:31 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top