School scores (2010, school districts, taxes)

[okaydorothy]

Just wanted to update someones question about test scores at Catholic schools. The school our sons attend just posted their scores on their website. My son is in 4th grade so their scores were ; ELA ; 90%, Math 100%. Dont know about the science yet. 8th grade ; ELA ; 100%, Math ; 94%. 5th grade ; Social studies ; 100%.

Just for your interest as someone was having a problem getting the scores.

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[anotherNYer]

Apparently you can educate a child in private school for 1/2 what it cost to educate them in public. And apparently do it well.

[okaydorothy]

Originally Posted by anotherNYer

Apparently you can educate a child in private school for 1/2 what it cost to educate them in public. And apparently do it well.

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But we still pay the total amount of taxes plus catholic education. So as a taxpayer, it is expensive. But because of all the fluff in public schools, it is triple the price to educate a child in the public system.

However, my most recent experience with public school was ; my son gets resource reading and I go to the IEP meeting annually to make sure he gets the help he needs. In 2008, the board did say that he would get OT as a push in. That was definately mentioned. The oT was pulling him out of the class to help him which was ok with me. When I mentioned again about the Push in for 2009/2010, the person on the special ed committe said ; oh, no we do not offer that to private schools, only if he was in public would he get this and denied what was said last year. Later that day, the resource teacher called me to verify what was said last year. The public system has a HUGE problem paying for anything when it comes to private schools. However, do we have a choice in our taxes ; nope.

This is not the first time this particular person has suggested that if only the child was in public he would get more help ; its happened to many parents. Funny thing is that my friends son is in public and has add and gets absolutely no help at all.

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[OhBeeHave]

Originally Posted by okaydorothy

Just wanted to update someones question about test scores at Catholic schools. The school our sons attend just posted their scores on their website. My son is in 4th grade so their scores were ; ELA ; 90%, Math 100%. Dont know about the science yet. 8th grade ; ELA ; 100%, Math ; 94%. 5th grade ; Social studies ; 100%.

Just for your interest as someone was having a problem getting the scores.

D

My children took the ELAs and they are not given scores of up to 100%.

Is the school trying to indicate that 100% of children tested received a score of 3 or better?


For example:

Suffolk County MATH 91.1% of 4th graders scored 3 or higher. The mean was 695.

88.9% of 8th graders scored 3 or higher; mean 683.

Suffolk ELA: 74.8% 4th grade 3 or better; mean 676.9
8th grade 78.8% 3 or better; mean 667.71

NYSED:IRS:English Language Arts and Mathematics Assessment Results

There is no mention of the science exam -- I am curious because my youngest had taken that this year, too.

[okaydorothy]

They havent the scores of the science yet. The teacher said all the children got either a 3 or 4 in the tests. We do not have individual marks yet ; waiting patiently for report card next week.

will update then again.

[llama8]

100% means passing with a score of 3 or better.Anyone with a 2 or below is failing.

Those are great scores. Even though I am a public school teacher, I am very pro-Catholic school. You can't beat the education there.

[WJFM]

I heard that private schools use something called ERB ( Educational Records Board). Is it true that ERB is supposed to be a tougher test than the standard state tests that public schools use?

[AlexisT]

ERB is for fancy private schools.

The lower cost of a Catholic education is somewhat misleading, because they do not provide special education services. That is not "fluff".

[anotherNYer]

Catholic schools do provide services for special education. They have resource rooms and certified reading teachers. It is true that a severely handicapped child would not fare well in a Catholic school because they do not have the resources. But their are many specific schools for that (BOSCES is one). But many private schools have their fair share of ADD, those under the autistic umbrella, etc. Special ed services are hardly the reason our taxes are so high.

[AlexisT]

Catholic schools (pretty much all non-special private schools) reject all children who they can't serve. They are not serving kids who can't be handled in a mainstream class. It is the special classes that cost so much money (sometimes in the range of $40K a year or more) and there has been an enormous growth in the past 10-15 years. Look at the huge jump in autism diagnoses. Many of those kids were just labeled "learning disabled". Now they are autistic, and receiving intensive therapies like ABA. The growth in special education services has caused a huge rise in costs for school districts.