Is "White Flight" over on LI? (Hempstead, Massapequa: sales, renters)

[nancy thereader]

I am black myself and there are a lot of places I would like to live and visit in this world, but I am not sure how comfortable I would be.

This, to me is a very sad (but unfortunately true) statement , that someone has to feel this way in 2009........

[Samrai309]

Originally Posted by OhBeeHave

The tenants moving into the empty apartments in the older buildings started carrying on in less-than-acceptable fashion -- urinating in stairways, elevators, and courtyards, tossing trash outside the door or window as opposed to taking it downstairs..... .

To be fair and not paint with a broad stroke, there are probably good hard working people that are in really bad living places and I am sure they have morals, values, standards, etc...but aside from that, did you ever stop to think what goes through someone's mind where they think that urinating in elevators, stairwells, etc of "their home" or "their building" is acceptable? I mean I often wonder, when things first began to change in some of these areas...what actually makes a person think...hmm....I really gotta go...theres a good spot....

I got plenty of friends and relatives that are nypd, fdny and fdny paramedic and the stories they tell me of some of these living conditions they see....I am amazed...not usually surprised but just amazed at what I hear.

[dman72]

Originally Posted by Samrai309

To be fair and not paint with a broad stroke, there are probably good hard working people that are in really bad living places and I am sure they have morals, values, standards, etc...but aside from that, did you ever stop to think what goes through someone's mind where they think that urinating in elevators, stairwells, etc of "their home" or "their building" is acceptable? I mean I often wonder, when things first began to change in some of these areas...what actually makes a person think...hmm....I really gotta go...theres a good spot....

I got plenty of friends and relatives that are nypd, fdny and fdny paramedic and the stories they tell me of some of these living conditions they see....I am amazed...not usually surprised but just amazed at what I hear.

No self respect, no respect for anyone or anything else..that's generally where it comes from. No parenting, no schooling, no good role models, no hope.

[TeamExit]

Originally Posted by OhBeeHave

On the flip side: they sold their Massapequa home to retire down south. The family who bought it admitted to leaving Baldwin because it was 'changing'. White Flight was alive and well in 1996.

My parents moved us from Williamsburg/Greenpoint Brooklyn (not the jewish side) in 1990 because the neighborhood was going to ****. So we moved to Brentwood, since my mother was originally from there as a young child and had family there. Well by 1999, they had finally decided they were able to BUY their first house, stayed only long enough to let me finish HS since they refused to buy in Brentwood because of how it was "changing/changed", and were worried about future property values, etc. So we were off to Centereach. a few years later i was back in brentwood myself, and now bay shore.. so yea i guess in a way its still around

[hotkarl]

Originally Posted by TheTruth08

I really do hope Long Island becomes less segregated. It seems like in the southern suburbs blacks and whites live next door to each other. I am black myself and there are a lot of places I would like to live and visit in this world, but I am not sure how comfortable I would be. So it seems like I am going to stay in the Northeast for now.

I am white myself and there are a lot of places "I" would like to live and visit in this world, but I am not sure how comfortable "I" would be.
Ha, but that's just me. I'm not wrapped too tight ya know...

[TheTruth08]

Originally Posted by hotkarl

I am white myself and there are a lot of places "I" would like to live and visit in this world, but I am not sure how comfortable "I" would be.
Ha, but that's just me. I'm not wrapped too tight ya know...

Yeah I know it works both ways. But I am just saying. Something tells me walking around Savannah, GA or Charleston, SC at night isn't such a great idea for me. It's sad. I would love to visit both of those places.

[dman72]

Originally Posted by TheTruth08

Yeah I know it works both ways. But I am just saying. Something tells me walking around Savannah, GA or Charleston, SC at night isn't such a great idea for me. It's sad. I would love to visit both of those places.

You must have Savannah and Charleston mixed up with middle of nowhere Kentucky. It's white kids who get their heads smashed in in Savannah..I know one who had that happen to them during college waiting on line at a convenience store. The local African Americans there don't appreciate lily-white art students.

I think you're about a century off on your characterizations of these cities. If you were talking about rural white Kentucky, Tennessee, Alabama..that's different.

[napjester666]

Originally Posted by DonnaReed

Are you kidding?

Why would someone need to be middle class to move to LI as opposed to anywhere else.

$$$$$$$$, that's why. I was really referring to the economic middle/upper-middle class families who make more than 6 figures to be able to afford the houses and taxes out here (at least in western Nassau).

[AlexisT]

BTW, according to the census, people from the Middle East and North Africa are considered white. So, Kings Point is 92% white, even though 30% of its residents report Iranian ancestry.

[scottzilla]

Originally Posted by AlexisT

BTW, according to the census, people from the Middle East and North Africa are considered white. So, Kings Point is 92% white, even though 30% of its residents report Iranian ancestry.

Shhhhhhh! Home values will drop and the SD will go to the dumper.