Jets Being Dumped on Western Nassau (Rockville Centre, Garden City: airport, pollution, yard)

[Johninwestbury]

They are still coming. Eeeaaarrrrr....ugh. Every 2 minutes. It is the worst night I've ever had. I'm gonna have to close the windows and put the a/c on to get to sleep.
So much for quiet after midnight. The FAA is going to make central Nassau a very undesirable place to live...unless you're an airplane buff. We're just a passing through place now, not a destination.
Why cant they vary the routing a little bit, the same towns just pounded with jet whine, day after day, hour after hour, minute after minute.

[samyn on the green]

The PDF's from that website are blocked from outside links. Try this one for runway 22L ILS. You will see that the 12 circled next to ROSLY indicates 12 miles to the runway. The rest of the JFK procedures are on this website.

Originally Posted by azzurrony

Samyn,

I appreciate your feedback, but I can't seem to open your PDF's. I'm not sure where those distances are coming from. From every mapping software I've used, I'm about 8.5 miles away from the front of 22L and Westbury is pretty much 12 miles away. There is no way GC is 5 miles from JFK. Impossible. I'm not sure what they are using to measure.

Samyn....last night there was no noise. I MUCH prefer departures over Long Island rather than arrivals. Departures are so high in the air by the time they pass a majority of the Island that you barely hear them.

Samyn...the Belmont Visual approach is the WORST of them all. This is the approach that is victimizing towns like Westbury, Carle Place, GC, and Franklin Square. Under this approach pilots are supposed to be flying a bit more to the West than they normally do. They should be flying over Merillon Ave. and then intersecting Covert Ave and Stewart Ave. before finally making a slight left turn 1600 feet before Belmont.

None of the pilots seem to follow this procedure. Instead they fly much closer to Stewart Ave/Nassau Blvd, over the GC Country Club, over Franklin Sq. and then near Elmont take a late turn into 22L. Makes no sense to me why they do that other than to avoid getting closer to Belmont.

[56 Fighter]

Originally Posted by Johninwestbury

They are still coming. Eeeaaarrrrr....ugh. Every 2 minutes. It is the worst night I've ever had. I'm gonna have to close the windows and put the a/c on to get to sleep.
So much for quiet after midnight. The FAA is going to make central Nassau a very undesirable place to live...unless you're an airplane buff. We're just a passing through place now, not a destination.
Why cant they vary the routing a little bit, the same towns just pounded with jet whine, day after day, hour after hour, minute after minute.

Last night was bad... one plane woke me up, and I am not a light sleeper nor do I sleep with the windows open. Garden City Park really gets slammed with this... I wish I knew before I bought here

[azzurrony]

56 Fighter

I hear you. Think how much worse it is in GC by the time they fly over my house. I've got a pregnant wife who is 9 months along and has trouble sleeping to begin with. Imagine when the 747's start over our house at night. This is really messed up.

Anyone on here willing to help with website development. We need to publicize this more and let people know they can do something about this.

From last Fri through last night, the Estate and Western section has been pounded for at least a few hours each day. That is unacceptable. Every friggin day? Come on. They clearly have to start spreading the burden.

Check that....they are flying over our neighborhood this morning as well. Make that SIX days in a row.

[azzurrony]

Samyn,

Thanks for the links. I believe Roslyn is 12 miles away. But if Roslyn is 12 miles, so is Westbury. Just look at any map. Where I am in GC, it is about 8 miles or more away from the runway. Again, these are not straight vectors to the runway either, so the distance is longer.

Even you can concede that SIX straight days is too much. There clearly is no variation in the path.

[azzurrony]

Samyn,

You seem to know the aviation industry here in NY pretty well. Assuming you were in my shoes, and the same neighborhood was getting the brunt of this each time, how would you approach the issue? (I understand you are not sympathetic to our cause, but perhaps you could play devil's advocate.)

What would be reasonable requests to help mitigate the noise and with what officials/offices at the FAA and Port Authority would you start?

[Burb]

http://www.townofpoundridge.com/uplo...8062514070.pdf

This may help with the "who's and how's" to register complaints.

Good luck wih your campaign. Frankly I don't know if you'll make much headway. Your suggestions to reroute over other neighborhoods to share the burden will not be a poular one.

[azzurrony]

Burb,

Thanks. That document is very helpful. I know my suggestion is not popular, and frankly, that is why hasn't been done. But, routing the planes over one particular area all the time is simply unjust and I would argue unlawful.

[ambralita]

Originally Posted by sean sean sean sean

OK I just checked the Doppler 9850 FlightTRAKKR on the www and I think this picture pretty much speaks for itself:
When are Long Islanders going to WAKE UP and smell the jet fuel???

LOL. Not only informative but hilarious. Thank you for that!

Kudos to the citizens for speaking against this. But unfortunately we live in one of the busiest EPI-centers of the world. It is inevitable to have these flights whizzing around our heads.

[azzurrony]

Ambralita,

You're missing the point. The issue isn't having a flight or two whizzing around our heads. We are talking about jets over our houses every 2 minutes for hours on end. One after another...in central Nassau no less.

Just because you don't have this issue in Northport doesn't mean it's not an issue.