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Old 06-18-2009, 09:11 AM
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Does anyone think that the exhaust fumes is a health concern? I wonder with the Long Island cancer clusters, how much of this can be attributable to constant jet exhaust fumes.....With everyone being green and the suggestions that if you are at a red light and the third car back, to shut your engine, due to pollution? why would jets circling Long Island and dropping exhaust on us, even moreso, on rainy days as they are more prone to use runway 22?
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Old 06-18-2009, 12:16 PM
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It's a distinct possibility. Those older jets really let off some bad exhaust so it wouldn't surprise me.
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Old 06-21-2009, 10:07 AM
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Yea and that noise echos and is really load. The louding revving of an engine and then the screech of brakes. All of my neighbors are so fed up it is ridiculous. Let's put that noise next to your house and see how you like it. This is just another example of how the jolly vollies waste money and cause noise pollution almost every damn day.

Lol did you read my 1st post.... I grew up next to JFK, again i say....

You have no clue what REAL noise is, and the planse over the last 15 years have gotten so quiet.

I was at my cousins house friday... I happened to look up (seaford) and SEEN, not HEAR, a plane... i laughed and my cousin asked why and i explained this post....

Show me one person negatively effected by noise...
I'll show you a entire family of successful people who all came from or still live right next to JFK...

1 person...doomed from noise...
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adny

It's a distinct possibility. Those older jets really let off some bad exhaust so it wouldn't surprise me.

Well here let me help you stop with making up bs rumors...

My great grandparents, grandparent and parents lived next to JFK before it was JFK ....

None of them had lung cancer, my grandparents lived till 75, 72,70, my great grandparents made it to 78, 83, 90 and 92....

Planes went and are going over my grandmothers house and my parents and 3 of my brothers and 1 sisters houses...EVERY 3 minutes....

No one is dying from it, no one has hearing issues, including myself...

My aunt passed away from cancer, but she was a smoker....
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Old 06-21-2009, 12:54 PM
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Lol did you read my 1st post.... I grew up next to JFK, again i say....

You have no clue what REAL noise is, and the planse over the last 15 years have gotten so quiet.

I was at my cousins house friday... I happened to look up (seaford) and SEEN, not HEAR, a plane... i laughed and my cousin asked why and i explained this post....

Show me one person negatively effected by noise...
I'll show you a entire family of successful people who all came from or still live right next to JFK...

1 person...doomed from noise...
I grew up less than a mile from LGA runway 13/31. Back in the 70's and 80's the DC-9's, 727's and 737's were 3 times as loud as the stage three aircraft flying today. When it was overcast the rumble was amplified and the departures used to rattle glass and everything on a shelf. The classic jets were eye openers and had a rumbling popping sound that modern airplanes have muffled. Arrivals for runway 31 were about 800 feet over the block and the sound was no big deal compared to the departures. The departures were the rumblers and used to shake the building, the sound used to pop especially the 727 This type of experience could not be duplicated today as the stage 1 or 2 airplanes have all been retired.

In addition to the LGA traffic there was also Flushing airport until 1984 which was just a few yards from the building. That airport had piston engine WWII skywriters that would skim the building just a few dozen feet overhead. When it comes to knowing airplane noise I got your experience right here.
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Old 06-21-2009, 01:03 PM
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Exactly , when im at my parents or brothers the planes are nothing, nothing what they used to be, and there still at that point only a couple hundred feet above and 2000' from touching the runway.

Huge strides in sound, though i miss the Concorde and SST's coming in and shooting out, they were the best to watch, miss the grumman f-14's too....

I remember when the planes got over my parents house they would always scream those engines, the 747's having 4 were the worst
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I don't know what weather condition prompted this but today I have seen at least 20-30 jets heading east over Lynbrook/Rockville Centre/Baldwin. I searched Google for "jets over long island" and it led me to this thread.

Why wouldn't they just fly over the water?
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Old 06-22-2009, 08:13 PM
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They can't head over the water since the runways are set up to be along the air streams..... You want them flying against air streams then you'll really have issues...

20 30... i could see 90 in less then 3 hours only counting incoming
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Old 06-23-2009, 06:58 AM
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It is interesting that jets flying into LGA, where they fly over Great Neck, Manhasset, Kings Point, all fly higher in their approach with the airport closer than jets flying into Kennedy over the middle of Nassau County. I guess the North shore gets preferrential treatment.....I have lived in both areas, just stating the facts.
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It is interesting that jets flying into LGA, where they fly over Great Neck, Manhasset, Kings Point, all fly higher in their approach with the airport closer than jets flying into Kennedy over the middle of Nassau County. I guess the North shore gets preferrential treatment.....I have lived in both areas, just stating the facts.

How far are those areas from LGA in relation to Garden City from JFK?
It's a serious question -- I know where they are geographically, but not distance wise.
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