Jets Being Dumped on Western Nassau (New York, Franklin Square: roofing, living, military)

[sean sean sean sean]

Originally Posted by twingles

Yet another example of having no clue. First you live in "north Wantagh" and are not under the flight path- second, the planes don't stop flying on weekends - third, more reverse snobbery, since we live in GC, we must not be able to "handle it".

THe planes are going over every 2 minutes at 7:15 as I type this. Ironically me kids even asked me today - where are those planes GOING? they are so LOW!!

If I'm reading these stupid flight tracker images that have been posted on here a billion times, they're the same planes. They come in over the Atlantic and turn west over central Nassau...but they do fly higher over me.

Reverse snobbery? If that's what you want to call it....I'm certainly not shedding any tears over the plight of you poor, unfortunate souls dreading the wicked scourge of Pratt & Whitney afterburners. In fact, now I do notice these planes flying overhead more often...and it makes me happy knowing that somewhere in Garden City, someone is having a panic attack over it!

Write your letters, complain about it on the internet, make bumper stickers and hand them out at the next PTA meeting. It will do nothing! Hopefully, you'll all wise up and realize we've got more than a few bridges leading off LI for greener pastures....it's the only solution.

[OldLongIsland]

My parents live in Old Westbury and the flyovers are constant. Nice weather, crappy weather, it doesn't seem to matter. They are low, loud and seem endless. Here's a pic I took of one flying over the yard on Memorial Day weekend.



The same ones that fly over their place continue on right over East Williston and Roslyn Heights also.

[OhBeeHave]

Originally Posted by fopt65

The worst time was after 9/11.....the eerie silence of having no planes flying was weird.

I am in Stony Brook and we get the Hamptons and CT commuter type planes (in/out of NYC & ISP) as well as helicopters into University Hospital. It was completely bizarre not to hear or see air traffic in the days after 9/11.

[Johninwestbury]

Originally Posted by azzurrony

Jeepejeep

I sympathize with you. I really do. But, when someone purchases a home in Valley Stream or Howard Beach, they at least have the expectation that there will be aircraft noise. It's a given.

When someone purchases in Central Nassau, they aren't expecting a line of planes over their house. It catches most people off guard, deteriorates their quality of life, and jeopardizes their home values.

Exactly, because we didn't move by an airport. Its not like someone who moves near the tracks then complains about train noise.
The FAA forced this routing upon us, and given the Redesign, we haven't even seen the worst of it.

[Johninwestbury]

Originally Posted by fopt65

Are you sure its just because of laziness? I'm not a flight controller, LOL, but I thought planes were sent OUT of Kennedy via the water route because it is the noisiest part of the flight and coming in to JFK from the water would come into conflict with those planes leaving.

Well if you look at takeoffs on the flight tracker, you'll see they are only noisy close to the airport, because most airliners increase in altitude quite rapidly. Most takeoffs from JFK are already at or more than 10,000 feet up by 7 or 8 miles into the route.
Takeoffs already fly over Nassau, but they aren't noticed because of the high altitude. Arrivals probably used to be at higher altitudes as well, which is why they weren't noticed until recently.
Safety should be #1 and speed/efficiency 2nd, and both those would either have the planes flying higher (more time to make the airport in case of engine stall) and more direct (saving time and fuel).
But the FAA seems to think that lining up planes over central Nassau at low altitude is good. But for who?

[fopt65]

Again, I'm not a professional in this regard, but don't planes need to fly relatively low to make a gradual descent landing at the airport? Can they safely drop 8,000 feet in a few miles? I mean they're big planes, 747s and such, not the Harrier planes that can land like a helicopter.

[Johninwestbury]

Originally Posted by OldLongIsland

My parents live in Old Westbury and the flyovers are constant. Nice weather, crappy weather, it doesn't seem to matter. They are low, loud and seem endless. Here's a pic I took of one flying over the yard on Memorial Day weekend.



The same ones that fly over their place continue on right over East Williston and Roslyn Heights also.

Yeah you guys up in Old Westbury seem to get it a but worse then here in Westbury, alot of the planes fly just to our north or south.
Its just a constant parade, like tonight, just one after another. How can the FAA say this is safe flying, having so many planes so close together in a heavily populated area.
They all seem to converge on Garden City though, they have it the worst by far and they are still 10 miles from the airport.

[Johninwestbury]

Originally Posted by fopt65

Again, I'm not a professional in this regard, but don't planes need to fly relatively low to make a gradual descent landing at the airport? Can they safely drop 8,000 feet in a few miles? I mean they're big planes, 747s and such, not the Harrier planes that can land like a helicopter.

Let them put the takeoffs over Nassau and the landings over the ocean.

[jeepejeep]

Originally Posted by azzurrony

Jeepejeep

I sympathize with you. I really do. But, when someone purchases a home in Valley Stream or Howard Beach, they at least have the expectation that there will be aircraft noise. It's a given.

When someone purchases in Central Nassau, they aren't expecting a line of planes over their house. It catches most people off guard, deteriorates their quality of life, and jeopardizes their home values.

Yup, I have to agree with that. Yes, I knew it was there before I bought.

[OhBeeHave]

Court Refuses To Block New Jet Routes In Northeast - wcbstv.com

There was just a CBS news report about the very issue discussed on this thread. I found the above link on the wcbstv.com website, but not the actual video report.