Jets Being Dumped on Western Nassau (Garden City, Westbury: how much, purchase, legal)

[Johninwestbury]

Originally Posted by LongIslandCitizen

Was the airport there when you bought your home and what kind of deal did you get?

Again, they used to use the ocean approach more, and the ones that used 22 flew higher. Some planes still fly higher, but the airbuses, especially the huge A380 come in at 2000ft.

[twingles]

Originally Posted by sean sean sean sean

Thanks for posting this info (Again!), samyn.....though personally I've given up trying to talk common sense on these kinds of threads. Even if the FAA sent out a representative, a pilot and an aeronautical engineer to each of these folks' homes to explain the matter, even if we got them to digest a mountain of statistics, read books on physics, research plane crashes over the last 50 years.....even if we got a time machine and sent them all back in time to prove that there has always* been tons of air traffic over Long Island (aka "The Cradle of Aviation"), I seriously doubt it would do any good.

The motto of the LI Forum should be "NEVER LET THE FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF YOUR OPINION". In fact, is there some way we can get a banner right on top of the index page, proudly announcing that mission statement for all the world to see?


*= Since 1903 at least. I'm sure someone would have pointed out that airplanes weren't invented until the 20th century.

Yeah, Charlie Lindbergh took off in a noisy jumbo jet. You should see the Spirit of St. Louis hanging from the ceiling of the Air and Space Museum in Washington. Who knew they could suspend a 747 from the roof of a museum?! Oh...but wait....it's not a 747.....and there wasn't as much air travel back then....

why do people who have no interest in this topic continue to post their meaningless and unknowledgeable opinions?

[LongIslandCitizen]

Originally Posted by Johninwestbury

Again, they used to use the ocean approach more, and the ones that used 22 flew higher. Some planes still fly higher, but the airbuses, especially the huge A380 come in at 2000ft.

Seriously, and not trying to agitate you, but when you say they used the ocean more does that mean that sometimes they didn't use the ocean approach 100% of the time when you bought and did you get a better deal on the home because of its proximity to the airport...you didn't answer that.

[Peter B]

To all in Nassau County who have an issue with the "jet noise", ear plugs are a wonderful invention

[Johninwestbury]

The bigger they are, the lower they fly. Despite the size of this Airbus A380, it was fairly quiet. Still it was flying too low. This wasn't taken with some long zoom lens, just from a 5MP camera at 4x zoom.




JAL....


I also saw a FedEx plane, could read it with the naked eye.

[Johninwestbury]

Originally Posted by LongIslandCitizen

Seriously, and not trying to agitate you, but when you say they used the ocean more does that mean that sometimes they didn't use the ocean approach 100% of the time when you bought and did you get a better deal on the home because of its proximity to the airport...you didn't answer that.

I live in Westbury, and do not live "close" to the airport. You'd have to consider all of Nassau county close to the airport.
I may as well be in 5 Towns with how low these planes are flying. Maybe the difference is they are flying much lower now.

[Rachael84]

We just bought a house in Levittown and I'll be moving into it in 2 weeks. I've lived in the flight path here in Queens and the sounds never bothered me. I actually think it's cool seeing the planes. So I don't think they'll bother me in Levittown. I guess I'm in the minority lol.

[Johninwestbury]

Originally Posted by Rachael84

We just bought a house in Levittown and I'll be moving into it in 2 weeks. I've lived in the flight path here in Queens and the sounds never bothered me. I actually think it's cool seeing the planes. So I don't think they'll bother me in Levittown. I guess I'm in the minority lol.

Then you'll love Nassau. However Levittown isn't under the flight path, the planes come in more over Rt.135.

[samyn on the green]

They all fly at the same height. The height is dictated by the ILS procedure and not a random number. These planes have been flying at the same height over your house since they opened Idlewild over 50 years ago. There has been no changes to the glideslope for JFK arrivals. A plane on a five mile final is always at 2000 feet whether it is JFK, Bangkok or Luanda. If the bigger ones seems lower it is a visual illusion caused by size. Bigger things that are the same distance away as smaller things may seem closer to you.

Originally Posted by Johninwestbury

The bigger they are, the lower they fly. Despite the size of this Airbus A380, it was fairly quiet. Still it was flying too low. This wasn't taken with some long zoom lens, just from a 5MP camera at 4x zoom.

[azzurrony]

Samyn,The angle of approach for a safe landing is 3.1 degrees. These planes are at 1,900 ft over GC and 2,000 ft over Westbury. They are clearly below that 3.1 degree angle. I have to believe that the new airspace implementation design is affecting the flying level of some of these planes. By the way, we had another slew of planes come over GC today. 3 days in a row of the Belmont Visual Approach being used. It's ridiculous. Another reason why we need the FAA to come up with more alternative approaches into 22L. The space is there...they just need to use it.