What "Nature-based" things do you like/not like about Long Island? (apartment, organic)

[totallyfrazzled]

Originally Posted by geo123

If you don't like the taste or the smell of chlorine in your water, then you can either use a brita filter to get rid of it, or refrigerate it for about an hour, which will eliminate the taste and smell of the chlorine.

Sorry, I didn't see your post before I wrote mine on the same subject!

I would add to the standing-water-chlorine-removal hint that the process will be most effective if the container is left open rather than capped/sealed/closed. Of course that assumes a clean environment that the water container is left standing in.

[thebobs]

Thank you everyone for the info.

[CleanCutHippie]

Originally Posted by geo123

Hippie - what criteria do you use to make that ridiculous statement? If you've ever had the tap water in florida or california, I think even you would agree that the water tastes a lot better coming out of the tap up here. Most water systems that have a surface water source have to use all kinds of chemicals and additives to make the water potable that it kills the taste. Long Islanders don't have to deal with that at all. And if you like flouride, go to your pharmacist and get a presecription for some flouride pills, and leave the water supply alone. To say that the water is no good, and then be annoyed that there isn't an additional chemical added to it, is a condtradiction. No need to spend public money to medicate the water to your personal preference. Public water in the U.S is about the safest, most extensively tested thing you can put in your body. It may not taste as good as you'd like, but it isn't unsafe !!

Who the hell said I liked flouride?..lol In my comment I was being sarcastic saying our water sux and does not even have flouride. Our water supply has been tested in yr past and numerous times has come as one of the WORST in the country. I agree on Florida water though :-)

[geo123]

Originally Posted by CleanCutHippie

Who the hell said I liked flouride?..lol In my comment I was being sarcastic saying our water sux and does not even have flouride. Our water supply has been tested in yr past and numerous times has come as one of the WORST in the country. I agree on Florida water though :-)

Show me the data that proves that Long Island water is the worst in the country. Do you have a link to a website that explains this ?? New Orleans' water comes from the Mississippi River - it doesn't get any worse than that. Their water plants are basically Sewage tretment plants - only you get to drink the stuff that comes out the other end !!

[OhBeeHave]

Originally Posted by lialleycat

There have been several studies done in CT, showing that a reduction in deer population has a reduction in the tick population. Deer are the primary host for the adult deer tick and are key to the reproductive success of the tick.

Showed a 74% reduction in deer populations reduced the tick population by 92% - Stafford K.C. 2004. Tick management handbook: an integrated guide for homeowners, pest control operators, and public health officials for the prevention of tick-associated disease. The Connecticut Agricultural Experiment Station, New Haven, Connecticut, USA

Showed reducing deer populations to 10 deer per square mile (from 77) reduced incidents of Lyme disease by 90% - DEP Wildlife Division: Managing Urban Deer in Connecticut 2nd edition June 2007

Rand, P.W., et al. 2004. Abundance of Ixodes scapularis (acari:Ixodidae) after complete removal of deer from an isolated offshore island, endemic for Lyme disease. Journal of Medical Entomology 41:779-784

All of these are where overpopulations caused stress on the population, resulting in weaker deer more susepible to diseases which they could then pass on to the ticks. LI has an overpopulation problem cause by a reduction of habitat and lack of natural predators.



I don't have published results that I can share on this ongoing study in FI. However here's a link to a study in Massachusetts:
http://www.capecodextension.org/pdfs...Population.pdf




I don't believe so as there is now a law in NY (below) that prohibit feeding deer. This law came into being because of Chronic Wasting Disease, a highly transmissible neurological disease of deer and elk that produces small lesions in brains of infected animals. It is characterized by loss of body condition, behavioral abnormalities and death. It's similar to the mad cow disease and transmitted when animals are in close contact. Feeding locations cause deer to congregrate thereby increasing transmission potential.

Section 11-0919 in Part 189 of Title 6 of the Codes, Rules and Regulations of the State of New York prohibits feeding of deer by the public in NY even by homeowners on their own property. Feeding deer within 300 feet of a road is an additional violation. Local towns and villages may also have restrictions and penalties.

Thank you so very much for taking the time to post the info. I look forward to reading it.

[CleanCutHippie]

Originally Posted by lialleycat

There have been several studies done in CT, showing that a reduction in deer population has a reduction in the tick population. Deer are the primary host for the adult deer tick and are key to the reproductive success of the tick.

Showed a 74% reduction in deer populations reduced the tick population by 92% - Stafford K.C. 2004. Tick management handbook: an integrated guide for homeowners, pest control operators, and public health officials for the prevention of tick-associated disease. The Connecticut Agricultural Experiment Station, New Haven, Connecticut, USA

Showed reducing deer populations to 10 deer per square mile (from 77) reduced incidents of Lyme disease by 90% - DEP Wildlife Division: Managing Urban Deer in Connecticut 2nd edition June 2007

Rand, P.W., et al. 2004. Abundance of Ixodes scapularis (acari:Ixodidae) after complete removal of deer from an isolated offshore island, endemic for Lyme disease. Journal of Medical Entomology 41:779-784

All of these are where overpopulations caused stress on the population, resulting in weaker deer more susepible to diseases which they could then pass on to the ticks. LI has an overpopulation problem cause by a reduction of habitat and lack of natural predators.



I don't have published results that I can share on this ongoing study in FI. However here's a link to a study in Massachusetts:
http://www.capecodextension.org/pdfs...Population.pdf




I don't believe so as there is now a law in NY (below) that prohibit feeding deer. This law came into being because of Chronic Wasting Disease, a highly transmissible neurological disease of deer and elk that produces small lesions in brains of infected animals. It is characterized by loss of body condition, behavioral abnormalities and death. It's similar to the mad cow disease and transmitted when animals are in close contact. Feeding locations cause deer to congregrate thereby increasing transmission potential.

Section 11-0919 in Part 189 of Title 6 of the Codes, Rules and Regulations of the State of New York prohibits feeding of deer by the public in NY even by homeowners on their own property. Feeding deer within 300 feet of a road is an additional violation. Local towns and villages may also have restrictions and penalties.

It sure does, of ppl..lol

[CleanCutHippie]

Originally Posted by geo123

Show me the data that proves that Long Island water is the worst in the country. Do you have a link to a website that explains this ?? New Orleans' water comes from the Mississippi River - it doesn't get any worse than that. Their water plants are basically Sewage tretment plants - only you get to drink the stuff that comes out the other end !!

I will try to find it. It was a few years back where it was listed. All tap water is toxic and bottled water not much better. Pharmacueticals. metals, pollutants, pesticides have wreaked havoc on our water. In Jamacia Bay the male fish are turning female.

[OhBeeHave]

Originally Posted by CleanCutHippie

I will try to find it. It was a few years back where it was listed. All tap water is toxic and bottled water not much better. Pharmacueticals. metals, pollutants, pesticides have wreaked havoc on our water. In Jamacia Bay the male fish are turning female.

I found an article about this phenomena occurring in Jamaica Bay. One scary part of this is that the hormone disruption if caused by chemicals in laundry detergents...

Chemicals Found in Detergents, Cosmetics Disrupting Hormone Activity in Fish -- and Humans - Science News - redOrbit

[geo123]

Originally Posted by OhBeeHave

I found an article about this phenomena occurring in Jamaica Bay. One scary part of this is that the hormone disruption if caused by chemicals in laundry detergents...

Chemicals Found in Detergents, Cosmetics Disrupting Hormone Activity in Fish -- and Humans - Science News - redOrbit

So don't drink the water in Jamaica Bay !!! But to make the connection between polluted surface water in jamaica Bay and your drinking water is beyond stupid. Do you think San Francisco Bay or Chesepeake Bay are soooo much better. Would you drink water from either of those two places ??

Pharmaceuticals in surface water is a definite environmental problem, as you've described with the fish. But the doses of pharmaceuticals found in surface water are about 1/1000 of the smallest "therapeutic" dose to a human. In other words, that level of pharmaceutical has no human effect !!! And since you don't drink the water in jamaica bay, you needn't worry.

Get real for once !!! There is plenty not to like about Long Island, but to blame the public tap water for one's poor quality of life is just plain ignorant !!

[OhBeeHave]

Originally Posted by geo123

So don't drink the water in Jamaica Bay !!! But to make the connection between polluted surface water in jamaica Bay and your drinking water is beyond stupid. Do you think San Francisco Bay or Chesepeake Bay are soooo much better. Would you drink water from either of those two places ??

Pharmaceuticals in surface water is a definite environmental problem, as you've described with the fish. But the doses of pharmaceuticals found in surface water are about 1/1000 of the smallest "therapeutic" dose to a human. In other words, that level of pharmaceutical has no human effect !!! And since you don't drink the water in jamaica bay, you needn't worry.

Get real for once !!! There is plenty not to like about Long Island, but to blame the public tap water for one's poor quality of life is just plain ignorant !!

Read the article. It isn't about drinking the water in Jamaica bay as much as it is about how everyday products we use are impacting us in ways we never imagined possible. If we are experiencing hormone disruption in a population of fish, how much longer is it before other water sources have been negatively affected?

BGH is an issue that has parents concerned about the source of the milk they give their children. We should be equally concerned about the quality of the drinking water -- whether on LI, upstate, New England, down south or out west. Ultimately, the food we eat might very well have been watered, or given surfacant contaminated water to drink.

Think of the water cycle. That water evaporating out of Jamaica Bay will inevitably fall as precipitation elesewhere, or be inhaled as humid summer air. The article indicates the discovery of a very serious matter, one which needs to be addressed yesterday. We are seeing greated incidents of gynecomastia...the development of mammary tissue in men, as well as gender issues in other species -- a phenomena not localized to Jamaica Bay.

Here's a link that's older, but gives you a better idea as to what is happening. It's lengthy, but worth reading.

The Ribbon Newsletter

Drinking water on LI comes from an aquifer. Yes, it's treated at a facility, but there are some things which can't be filtered or chlorinated out. Waste water in many areas of lI is still sent untreated into cesspools and septic tanks where it eventually leaches into the ground. Humans are taking more meds than ever and passing the byproducts of those medications into the soil by way of urine and excrement. Our laundry and dishwasher soap is also being sent out into the soil.