Bellport & the S. Country School District (Brookhaven, Roosevelt: roughest, neighborhood)

[dman72]

Originally Posted by scottzilla

What do those numbers mean? You just posted numbers. What am I supposed to be seeing? South Country is the 10th lowest school to have numbers listed next to it?
And what the hell is my agenda? Am I on a quest or something?
Rocky Point Rules!!

It's a list complied by Sean Sean Sean using the rankings from this site:

New York Public School Rankings

that has been listed on this forum dozens of times.

What the numbers mean..is that you over rate the school district where you live, because you live there. Your agenda may be that you have a house to sell there, or want to sell in the future, or you just want good people to move there...either way, you're ignoring the facts.

Rocky Point isn't rated that well either, but it's better than Bellport!!

[scottzilla]

Originally Posted by Egobop

I live in Yaphank and have two children whom go to Bellport Elementary and one whom will be starting there next year. My wife has been class mom for the two children in there since they started and I am up there with her for every event (I am retired on disability from the NYPD which is how I have the free time). It is a good school with no problems that I have seen. My neighbors across the street have one child in the middle school and one in Bellport High. Neither one talks of any problems at all. Be wary of the people whom do not live in an area giving their opinion of that area. They simply do not know and just go by what they think they know or things they have "heard". I personally went to high school for grades 10,11 and 12 in Ridgewood, NY which bordered Bushwick. Of course there were a lot of fights. The fights were always between people whom were looking for fights though. It was never someone minding their own business and not looking for trouble getting jumped. I believe this is the same at any school regardless of where it is located. I started high school at Berner High School in Massapequa on Long Island. There were fights there as well. I can personally tell you that there was a much bigger problem with drugs in Massapequa than there was at Grover Cleveland (the high school in Ridgewood). I suppose this was due to the fact that the kids in Massapequa were more bored and also came from families where they did not have a hard time getting money to blow on drugs. By the way, Massapequa was an all white area and obviously Ridgewood was heavily mixed with nationalities and races.
As for the people that say "What about moving to Center Moriches or other areas?"; there is a large cost difference in housing between these areas which must be taken into account. I have a good friend whom lives in Center Moriches and he sends his child to private school. Go figure.

Not only is there a cost difference, it's possible people don't want to live another 30 minutes east, or 40 minutes north of the LIE.
I mean, Rocky Point and Sound Beach are UP THERE.

Oh, and your opinion regarding Massapequa is wrong. White kids do not fight and take drugs.

[scottzilla]

Originally Posted by dman72

It's a list complied by Sean Sean Sean using the rankings from this site:

New York Public School Rankings

that has been listed on this forum dozens of times.

What the numbers mean..is that you over rate the school district where you live, because you live there. Your agenda may be that you have a house to sell there, or want to sell in the future, or you just want good people to move there...either way, you're ignoring the facts.

Rocky Point isn't rated that well either, but it's better than Bellport!!

I overate the district by pointing out that kids that attend South Country school are receiving a similar education that kids in supposedly "Higher ranking" SD's are receiving??
Wow, South Country must be horrible!

[Egobop]

I just want to start off by saying that I am not looking to get into heated disputes with anyone. I am just trying to have a discussion. I clicked on the link to the site "dman" put in his post and if you are not a subscribing member you can only get stats from the schools up to 2001. This is now 2009. I do not know if he is a subscribing member or not but if not the ratings are old. The ratings listed there are also simply based on academic scores. There is no rating for violence in the school. I personally believe the lowest rated academic schools can still have smart children in it and the highest rated can have some blabbering idiots as well. I believe there is a lot more to be said about how you raise your children and help them with any problems they have with school work than there is about the average academic test scores of a school. Again, this is just my opinion and I am not trying to start a serious argument about anything.

[scottzilla]

Originally Posted by Egobop

I just want to start off by saying that I am not looking to get into heated disputes with anyone. I am just trying to have a discussion. I clicked on the link to the site "dman" put in his post and if you are not a subscribing member you can only get stats from the schools up to 2001. This is now 2009. I do not know if he is a subscribing member or not but if not the ratings are old. The ratings listed there are also simply based on academic scores. There is no rating for violence in the school. I personally believe the lowest rated academic schools can still have smart children in it and the highest rated can have some blabbering idiots as well. I believe there is a lot more to be said about how you raise your children and help them with any problems they have with school work than there is about the average academic test scores of a school. Again, this is just my opinion and I am not trying to start a serious argument about anything.

Kids are kids. They get out what they put in.
If you sat 20 HS kids down and tried to guess what school they attend, you couldn't do it. The bad kids look like bad kids, the smart kids wear pocket protectors and wear glasses.

[Crookhaven]

Originally Posted by scottzilla

Not only is there a cost difference, it's possible people don't want to live another 30 minutes east, or 40 minutes north of the LIE.
I mean, Rocky Point and Sound Beach are UP THERE.

Oh, and your opinion regarding Massapequa is wrong. White kids do not fight and take drugs.

If I lived 40 Minutes North of the LIE Id be in New Haven.

Dude...for the last time Im 15 Min up the Billy F (or 20 up at Pat/Mt Sinai to Echo for SB)

Put down the pipe you just stepped over in North Bellport and stop exaggerating.

RP, MP and Longwood Scools are fine.
I wouldnt hesitate sending my kid to any of em.

SoCo is another story.
If I had the coin and lived by the water in Beautiful Bellport Village Id probably send my kid to private/catholic school.
(as Im sure many do)

JMHO

Crooks

[okaydorothy]

Bellport Village is very nice. East patchogue south of Montauk is nice.

But I wouldnt send my kids to school there. In our parochial school, South Country has the most amount of buses that are transporting kids to the school. The special ed system is horrendous ; a huge fight to get services.
If you family is involoved and you think you can do a great job of being ahead of the curve, its ok. It does depend on your parenting and how involved you want to be.
Personally I like to be involved and hopefully as a result my kids will be ok.

Look at Rocky Point. Or even Longwood ; thats not terrible either.

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[dman72]

Originally Posted by Egobop

I just want to start off by saying that I am not looking to get into heated disputes with anyone. I am just trying to have a discussion. I clicked on the link to the site "dman" put in his post and if you are not a subscribing member you can only get stats from the schools up to 2001. This is now 2009. I do not know if he is a subscribing member or not but if not the ratings are old. The ratings listed there are also simply based on academic scores. There is no rating for violence in the school. I personally believe the lowest rated academic schools can still have smart children in it and the highest rated can have some blabbering idiots as well. I believe there is a lot more to be said about how you raise your children and help them with any problems they have with school work than there is about the average academic test scores of a school. Again, this is just my opinion and I am not trying to start a serious argument about anything.

The list compiled by another forum member is from the 2007 or 2008 stats, which are public record, but not put into a nice list, I believe. So no, South Country has not improved since 2001.

I believe that the first thing I SAID was that your kids can do well in Bellport/South Country if you keep them on the right track. That's not the point. In comparing school districts, by most quantifiable aspects, South Country is a poor district, by LI standards. I'm sorry if that hurts some peoples feelings.

[Egobop]

I do not see any point in sending kids to private schools unless perhaps they are having a real problem with the public school which I would be able to pinpoint as the school itself being the problem. When I went to high school in Ridgewood there was a private school called Christ The King that a lot of the kids that would have otherwise went to the same school I went to. I remember a lot of those kids (some of whom I actually knew) walking around with a chip on their shoulder thinking they were better than everyone else. I also do not believe in sheltering children.

[dman72]

Originally Posted by Egobop

I do not see any point in sending kids to private schools unless perhaps they are having a real problem with the public school which I would be able to pinpoint as the school itself being the problem. When I went to high school in Ridgewood there was a private school called Christ The King that a lot of the kids that would have otherwise went to the same school I went to. I remember a lot of those kids (some of whom I actually knew) walking around with a chip on their shoulder thinking they were better than everyone else. I also do not believe in sheltering children.

Well, one person's sheltering may be another person's protecting. It's all a question of degree. Do I think your kids would be unsafe in Bellport? Maybe not..maybe the administration really keeps a short leash..maybe my anecdote of a relative of mine being put in the hospital is just one, rare occurrence that hasn't happened since and won't happen again. He did have a big mouth, but, I don't see how a dozen guys kicking him while he was down, all black, while he was white..wouldn't raise some questions.

Anyway, all that people can do is offer you advice and insight into their own personal experiences. Good luck with your search.