Massapequa near Carmans (Islip, Copiague, East Massapequa: neighborhood, schools, living in)

[Walter Greenspan]

Originally Posted by LINative

My Hagstrom map says West Amityville for the part below the railroad tracks and I know the term is still being used as a family member works in the mall. I do not see East Massapequa on the map ...

Hagstrom is good for town, city, village and school district, but not hamlet, borders.

Prior to 1990, the eastern-third of what is now the Hamlet of East Massapequa (i.e., the area east of Carmen Mill Road) was the Hamlet of West Amityville, and traveling west to east from the Oyster Bay/Hempstead town line, there was the Hamlet of Massapequa, the Village of Massapequa Park, the Hamlet of East Massapequa and the Hamlet of West Amityville; then in 1990, concomitant with the 1990 Federal Census, the Hamlet of West Amityville was made part of an already existing Hamlet of East Massapequa.

Also, complicating the matter even more: the "Massapequa, NY 11758" ZIP Code postal zone is a bifurcated postal zone, with noncontiguous areas on the eastside and westside of the "Massapequa Park, NY 11752" ZIP Code postal zone, and the "Amityville, NY 11701" ZIP Code postal zone is a bi-county postal zone, serving areas outside of the Village of Amityville, on both sides of the Nassau/Suffolk County line in the Hamlet of East Massapequa in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County and in the Hamlet of Copiague and the Hamlet of North Amityville in the Town of Babylon, Suffolk County.

[LINative]

Originally Posted by fred5

Your information is incorrect. Everything east of Carman's Road before County Line Road is Massapequa. Everything after (west of) County Line Road is Amityville. The railroad tracks you are referring to are on the other side of County Line Road - hence those areas are in Amityville. But the Amityville school district section of East Massapequa stretches from across the mall all the way to the other side of Merrick Road by the water. It's not a question of saying "East Massapequa" sounds better than "Amityville". All the people east of Carman's but west of County Line road live in "Massapequa", plain and simple.

Several things wrong here including everything "west of County Line Road is Amityville" (you are actually going against your own point) and the location of the railroad tracks. You should change these things like you did post 14. Also I KNOW my mother's coworkers say West Amityville --- they live on Clock Blvd down toward Merrick Road.

[fred5]

Originally Posted by LINative

Several things wrong here including everything "west of County Line Road is Amityville" (you are actually going against your own point) and the location of the railroad tracks. You should change these things like you did post 14. Also I KNOW my mother's coworkers say West Amityville --- they live on Clock Blvd down toward Merrick Road.

Did you go back and read my updated post? "West" of county line road was written in error but was meant to denote that the area west of County Line is Amityville. But the point is still being that everything between Carman's and County Line is Massapequa. County Line Road divides Nassau and Suffolk, and Massapequa from Amityville (see Walter's posts above). And nomatter what your "mother's coworkers" tell her, that area has a Massapequa address and zip code.Clocks Blvd btw, is not in "West Amityville". In the 70s it was, not anymore. Go google Clocks Blvd and tell me what town you get.

[Walter Greenspan]

Originally Posted by LINative

Several things wrong here including everything "west of County Line Road is Amityville" (you are actually going against your own point) and the location of the railroad tracks. You should change these things like you did post 14. Also I KNOW my mother's coworkers say West Amityville --- they live on Clock Blvd down toward Merrick Road.

fred5 is confusing everyone by using the name of the ZIP Code postal zone and not the name of the village or hamlet.

This is especially confusing when the ZIP Code postal zone and the village or hamlet that have the same name have different borders.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/long-...you-think.html may help you understand the great geographic confusions caused by non-conforming ZIP Code postal zones.

[Walter Greenspan]

Originally Posted by fred5

And nomatter what your "mother's coworkers" tell her, that area has a Massapequa address and zip code.Clocks Blvd btw, is not in "West Amityville". In the 70s it was, not anymore. Go google Clocks Blvd and tell me what town you get.

Even better than Google, you can find out in which community (city, village or CDP) that house is actually located, which is oftentimes different from the community named in that house's mailing address, by using the Census Bureau's online address search function. (CDP or Census Designated Place is the Census Bureau equivalent for a hamlet in Nassau and Suffolk Counties.)

[fred5]

Originally Posted by Walter Greenspan

fred5 is confusing everyone by using the name of the ZIP Code postal zone and not the name of the village or hamlet.

This is especially confusing when the ZIP Code postal zone and the village or hamlet that have the same name have different borders.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/long-...you-think.html may help you understand the great geographic confusions caused by non-conforming ZIP Code postal zones.

You are missing the entire point of these recent threads. The area between Carman's Road and County Line Road is still East Massapequa. Clocks Blvd is in East Massapequa. When you cross County Line Road, you get into the town of Amityville. Until then you are still primarily in Massapequa.

[fred5]

Originally Posted by Walter Greenspan

Even better than Google, you can find out in which community (city, village or CDP) that house is actually located, which is oftentimes different from the community named in that house's mailing address, by using the Census Bureau's online address search function. (CDP or Census Designated Place is the Census Bureau equivalent for a hamlet in Nassau and Suffolk Counties.)

Exactly. What LI Native is not grasping is that the area she is referring to as "West Amityville" is still technically "East Massapequa". Clocks Blvd, and all the houses on Clocks Blvd have Massapequa addresses. Yes, they are in the Amityville SD, but it's still technically "Massapequa". When people receive mail in this area, their town is going to be listed as Massapequa and they are going to pay Nassau County property taxes, plain and simple. They will however, pay Suffolk County SCHOOL taxes for being in the Amityville district.

[Walter Greenspan]

Originally Posted by fred5

When you cross County Line Road, you get into the town of Amityville.

No. You would be in either the Hamlet of North Amityville or the Village of Amityville (in the Town of Babylon).

Originally Posted by fred5

Until then you are still primarily in Massapequa.

No. You are in the Hamlet of East Massapequa. Remember, the eastern border of the Hamlet of Massapequa is the western border of the Village of Massapequa Park.

[fred5]

Originally Posted by Walter Greenspan

No. You would be in either the Hamlet of North Amityville or the Village of Amityville (in the Town of Babylon).




No. You are in the Hamlet of East Massapequa. Remember, the eastern border of the Hamlet of Massapequa is the western border of the Village of Massapequa Park.

Thank you for making my point! Although you are getting technical with respect to the hamlets and villages, it is clear that when you cross County Line Road, you are no longer in the Hamlet of "East" Massapequa or the village of "Massapequa Pk" (or in Nassau County for that matter!). You are square in Suffolk County, and in the "Hamlet" of North Amityville or the "Village" of Amityville. However, most people are not going to care about being technical about the "hamlets" or "villages". It will be clear to the average joe that the area in question (between Carmans and County Line) is for all intensive purposes - a section, part, hamlet, village etc of Massapequa!

[LINative]

Leaving out all the hamlet, county, school district, village, town stuff etc. lol, all I can tell you is that I have heard the term "West Amityville" in the last few years and I was not living around here 20 years ago! This is why I included it --- so as not to offend, instead I seem to have done the opposite! There are certainly plenty of other neighborhoods within other communities like Amity Harbor, Copiague Harbor, Venetian Shore, Pinelawn, and even Islip Terrace.