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Old 07-09-2009, 03:18 PM
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Yes, the decades of pesticides and fertilizers have a lot to do with it, but also watch what you're eating. All the crap they inject into the meat you eat has to end up somewhere. Go organic and/or go veggie, the cost may be worth it in the long run.

Breast Cancer Risk Linked To Red Meat, Study Finds - washingtonpost.com

Avoiding Hormones in Meat and Poultry?

I prefer to blame genetics. For example, I have high blood pressure, my father has been on Hypertension meds for years. I inherited Hypertension from my father, not my fault. (I conveniently forget to mention to my wife and doctor that at work I frequent the chilli dog and cheesesteak stands. I can only eat so much of that health crap at home!)
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I prefer to blame genetics. For example, I have high blood pressure, my father has been on Hypertension meds for years. I inherited Hypertension from my father, not my fault. (I conveniently forget to mention to my wife and doctor that at work I frequent the chilli dog and cheesesteak stands. I can only eat so much of that health crap at home!)
Ah, the ostrich approach. Know it well. I'm 'big boned', not overweight. LOL!
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Old 07-09-2009, 05:04 PM
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Affluence...sedentary lifestyle...excessive fat consumption?

Don't be too quick to blame pollution demons.
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Old 07-09-2009, 05:27 PM
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I do know that they debunked the breast cancer issue. It turned out that when you corrected for demographic factors (age, ethnic background, economic background), LI was right in line with the rest of the US. Being an affluent, middle aged white woman is not good for you, apparently.
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I'm sorry I dont buy it. How can dumping pesticides and fertilizers into our groundwater not have an effect. Those cancer surveys missed alot of people, including my mother. The surveys are just political polls, designed to give the results one WANTS to hear.
Its not a myth that petroleum and pesticide runoff is a carcinogen. So is diesel soot, which is so bad here on LI we ranked almost last in air quality.
No one wants to do anything to change their lifestyle. They want perfect lawns, big cars, and a high consumption lifestyle. Yet its these things that are killing us.
Air pollution causes asthma, its not a myth, asthma rates are higher in polluted areas.
Then there's the cell phone angle of it. Cell phones produce high frequency radiation. My Uncle uses one as his main phone (not while driving fortunately).
You'd think with better technology the US life expectancy would be higher, but its all this pollution thats killing us way too young.
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Old 07-09-2009, 09:19 PM
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Affluence...sedentary lifestyle...excessive fat consumption?

Don't be too quick to blame pollution demons.
it might be interesting to look at longevity in highly industrialized regions of countries like China and India where pollution is rampant... If I recall there is some region of Russia where people routinely live over 100 years . I wonder if that area if polluted.
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I lived up in Northport at the time of 9/11, and the morning after I could smell the "burning electrical fire" very distinctly.
then and we kept the kids inside for recess because it was that bad.
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I lived up in Northport at the time of 9/11, and the morning after I could smell the "burning electrical fire" very distinctly.
The smell was dreadful. There was the electrical smell, with something else mixed in.
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Yeah I don't know if I agree with that. I'd say the Islands 200y/o history of agriculture definitely plays a part. Pollution from the city I'm a little more skeptical about. Mosquito spraying, PCB's and whatever we've been dumping in the soil, you find that and you find Breast, Pancreatic, Melanoma etc. Pequa, Roslyn, Riverhead and Huntington are all big hitters in my institution. Oh Rockville also.
What's the odds for breast cancer on LI 1:8? (I recall it was 1:9, but was changed)

DH was dx with melanoma 5 years ago. He spent an awful lot of time outdoors when he was younger. Living in an area surrounded by beaches, one only wonders what the incidence factor for melanoma is on LI when compared to other areas of the country?
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I prefer to blame genetics. For example, I have high blood pressure, my father has been on Hypertension meds for years. I inherited Hypertension from my father, not my fault. (I conveniently forget to mention to my wife and doctor that at work I frequent the chilli dog and cheesesteak stands. I can only eat so much of that health crap at home!)
How do you explain my wife then? She's the first in her family to have any form of cancer, she never smoked and eats pretty healthy. Hypertension is way different from cancer. We eat a lot of game meat as I'm a hunter and we eat everything I kill. Nothing injected into this meat, it's as good as nature can provide it. I hunt on my property and know pretty much what the game is eating. We eat what we grow also as much as we can depending on time of year.
It's environmental. We've poisoned LI for too long and the crap we've put into the soil has no where to go but into us.
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