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View Poll Results: If the NCPD/SCPD could rid our streets of Heroin and Gangs...would you still think they were overpai
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08-01-2009, 04:38 PM
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Location: Massapequa, NY
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heroin is used by all races and nationalities. everyone is killing themselves over it. I say just let them do it till there arent any users left. let god sort them out.
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08-01-2009, 06:02 PM
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Levy says they're are no drugs hence the reason he is cutting narcotics.
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08-02-2009, 05:24 AM
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Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Originally Posted by LongIslandCitizen
Levy says they're are no drugs hence the reason he is cutting narcotics.
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Dude will you chill out already?
We don't need Narcotics. Crime is not reduced by the number of specialized units, how many motorcycles, detectives, etc we have but rather by the presence of sector patrol officers. Criminals will not commit crimes if there is a highly visible presence. |
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08-02-2009, 07:14 AM
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Location: Suffolk County, NY
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Originally Posted by WIHS2006
Dude will you chill out already?
We don't need Narcotics. Crime is not reduced by the number of specialized units, how many motorcycles, detectives, etc we have but rather by the presence of sector patrol officers. Criminals will not commit crimes if there is a highly visible presence.
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Narcotics units and other specialized units do help to keep crime down. Narcotics units have certain operations that they use to get dealers. These operations can't be done by patrol officers. |
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08-02-2009, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by WIHS2006
Dude will you chill out already?
We don't need Narcotics. Crime is not reduced by the number of specialized units, how many motorcycles, detectives, etc we have but rather by the presence of sector patrol officers. Criminals will not commit crimes if there is a highly visible presence.
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Not even close. Drug use/sale is not a crime that is impacted by visible police presence. In fact, most of it takes place behind closed doors. This type of police work requires specialists who can infiltrate drug sale operations and make arrests of dealers. Not generally within the realm of the patrol cop. |
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08-02-2009, 11:32 AM
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Location: East Northport, NY
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The way that you phrase your poll question assumes that all who vote already assume that the police are overpaid. It's like asking : "When did you stop beating your wife?"
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08-02-2009, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by WIHS2006
Dude will you chill out already?
We don't need Narcotics. Crime is not reduced by the number of specialized units, how many motorcycles, detectives, etc we have but rather by the presence of sector patrol officers. Criminals will not commit crimes if there is a highly visible presence.
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08-03-2009, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by TomMoser
The way that you phrase your poll question assumes that all who vote already assume that the police are overpaid. It's like asking : "When did you stop beating your wife?"
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Well put.
Regarding the herion issue (and shocker, this has already devolved into the same old cop defenders and bashers) its prevalence has a lot to do with its availability and low price. With the pipeline from overseas cranked up Heroin, to quote our local schools principals, has become easier to get (for 5 bucks) than beer. I think we are in a cycle where the opiate push of prescription meds for children/teens has resulted in terrible timing...it has become a gateway at a time when heroin is readily available. Couple that with the delay in quote "nice areas" to acknowledge an issue that has for so long been linked to vagrants and public housing and you see this burgeoning issue. I am hopeful that after the shock the communities will appropriately overreact and ensure this does not become a larger issue.
As for Crookhaven's comments regarding gang wars/heroin killing more than cancer...I think we can safely put things like car accidents/drunk driving even heart disease well ahead of this "epidemic". I am optimistic that public consciousness has been raised enough that it will be aggressively policed. I do feel for residents in poorer areas who might not have the community interest to assist the police as successfully as other areas.
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08-03-2009, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jrprofess
Well put.
Regarding the herion issue (and shocker, this has already devolved into the same old cop defenders and bashers) its prevalence has a lot to do with its availability and low price. With the pipeline from overseas cranked up Heroin, to quote our local schools principals, has become easier to get (for 5 bucks) than beer. I think we are in a cycle where the opiate push of prescription meds for children/teens has resulted in terrible timing...it has become a gateway at a time when heroin is readily available. Couple that with the delay in quote "nice areas" to acknowledge an issue that has for so long been linked to vagrants and public housing and you see this burgeoning issue. I am hopeful that after the shock the communities will appropriately overreact and ensure this does not become a larger issue.
As for Crookhaven's comments regarding gang wars/heroin killing more than cancer...I think we can safely put things like car accidents/drunk driving even heart disease well ahead of this "epidemic". I am optimistic that public consciousness has been raised enough that it will be aggressively policed. I do feel for residents in poorer areas who might not have the community interest to assist the police as successfully as other areas.
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Good post. Kids are switching to heroin once they become addicted to prescription pills, because it's cheaper and also you don't have to deal with the acetiminophin that is in the pills, which is almost if not more toxic than the synthetic opiate. Tylenol destroys your liver..as you up the number of pills you need to get the same high, you also up our dosage of acetiminophen to dangerous levels. Now the pills get more expensive, the same high can be had for $10 worth of heroin, which you can now snort or smoke and don't have to inject.....etc. Then, the snorting and smoking doesn't work as well, so you start injecting... The scenario plays out time and time again. Keep you kids away from prescription pills..get them out of your house and search their things.
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08-03-2009, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Crookhaven
...would you still think they were overpaid?
Interesting question now that Heroin(and the Gangs that traffic it) kill more than just about anything on LI (except cancer of course).
I for one would begrudge them nothing.
I gotta say, as it stands right now they are definitely losing the war.
Crooks
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Um..isn't this in their current job description, serve, protect, and so on. I don't see how controlling drugs or gangs would merit compensation above what their brethren in counties where officers were not comped like lottery winners |
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