Accurate L.I High School Rankings? (New York, Hempstead: how much, colleges, garden)

[CoolaTroopa]

These rankings were compiled only using average SAT scores by the way.
Website: SAT Scores

I know this method isn't 100% accurate but it certainly is better than the "How Many APs/IBs Do The Students Take" method.

#1: Wheatley
#2: Jericho
#3: Great Neck South
#4: Manhasset
#5: Cold Spring Harbor
#6: Great Neck North
#7: Roslyn
#8: Syosset
#9: Herricks
#10: Paul D. Schreiber
#11: George W. Hewlett, Earl L. Vandermuelen
#13: Garden City
#14: Plainview Old Bethpage
#15: North Shore
#16: Ward Melville
#17: Oyster Bay-East Norwich
#18: Smithtown East
#19: Half Hollow Hills East
#20: John F. Kennedy, Village School
#22: Westhampton
#23: Harborfields
#24: Sanford H. Calhoun, Babylon
#26: Half Hollow Hills West, Greenport
#28: John Glenn
#29: Northport
#30: Mount Sinai
#31: Smithtown
#32: Locust Valley, Commack
#34: Sayville
#35: Pierson
#36: Wantagh
#37: Oceanside
#38:Shoreham-Wading River
#39:Southold
#40: Lynbrook, Huntington
#42:Miller Place
#43:Bayport
#44:Shelter Island
#45:Bay Shore, Mattituck
#47:Walt Whitman
#48:Mepham, Floral Park, Southampton
#51: Bethpage
#52: West Islip
#53: W. Tresper Clarke
#54: Lawrence, Fishers Island
#56: Douglas MacArthur
#57: East Meadow
#58: Carle Place
#59: Hauppauge
#60: Kings Park
#61: Massapequa, New Hyde Park
#63: Hicksville
#64:Plainedge, Seaford, Sachem High East
#67: Connetquot, Easthampton
#69:East Islip, Sachem High North
#71:Eastport
#72: Island Trees, Rocky Point
#74: Bellport
#75: H. Frank Carey
#76:Mineola, Hampton Bays
#78: Division Avenue
#79:Farmingdale
#80:Center Moriches, Patchogue-Medford
#82:Comeswogue
#83:Baldwin
#84:East Rockaway, Valley Stream South
#86:Southside, Valley Stream North
#88:Centereach
#89:Long Beach
#90:Glen Cove
#91:West Hempstead, Islip
#93:Riverhead
#94:Newfield
#95:Valley Stream Central, Deer Park, Lindenhurst, Longwood
#99:West Babylon
#100:North Babylon
#101: Sewankahana, Copiague
#103:Freeport
#104:Elmont
#105:Malverne
#106:Brentwood
#107:Central Islip
#108:Brentwood-Ross Center
#109:Uniondale
#110:Amityville
#111:Hempstead
#112:Westbury
#113:William Floyd
#114:Roosevelt
#115:Wyandanch



Thoughts?

[S.I.B.]

do you have the actual numbers? I'm thinking there's probably not much separating most of the schools in the middle. Babylon (#24) may be better than West Babylon (#99) and North Babylon (#100)...but the difference between them probably isn't as large as those rankings would indicate.

edit: just realized the link gives the numbers.

[WJFM]

nice work with Excel..

What is striking is that this ranking closely follows the "How Many APs/IBs Do The Students Take" method.

[mgt04]

I would say the list is generally more or less correct. #72 Island Trees Class of 99 for me!

[Jdawg8181]

you def. cannot base school quality on SAT scores...nor a person's intelligence...nor anything really for that matter.

I'm very bright, went to an excellent college, have a great job...and I got a 920 on my SAT's.

I also think that no matter what school I went to, this wouldn't have changed. It's up to the individual student to try & either do well or don't.

Not to mention, you really can't seperate calhoun, kennedy & mepham...they are all part of the same district, bellmore-merrick chsd.

I call BS!

[WJFM]

By the same logic, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs dropped out of college, but are the most successful people on the planet. So, going to college is not important for a person's success.

If you do not rank schools by SAT scores, how will you rank them?

Originally Posted by Jdawg8181

you def. cannot base school quality on SAT scores...nor a person's intelligence...nor anything really for that matter.

I'm very bright, went to an excellent college, have a great job...and I got a 920 on my SAT's.

I also think that no matter what school I went to, this wouldn't have changed. It's up to the individual student to try & either do well or don't.

Not to mention, you really can't seperate calhoun, kennedy & mepham...they are all part of the same district, bellmore-merrick chsd.

I call BS!

[Jdawg8181]

Originally Posted by WJFM

By the same logic, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs dropped out of college, but are the most successful people on the planet. So, going to college is not important for a person's success.

If you do not rank schools by SAT scores, how will you rank them?

Why rank them?

Wheatley has bad & good students, Wheatley has bad & good teachers
Wyandanch has bad & good students, Wyandanch has bad & good teachers

Every school has students who will do well and others who will do poorly....teachers who can teach, and teachers who can't. It is so silly how much emphasis is put on ranking.

If you teach your kids to value education from an early age, they will put forth an effort and most likely succeed...whether they are going to Wyandanch or Wheatley.

[dman72]

The best way would be combination of factors: SAT scores, scores on AP tests (NOT the # of students taking the exams, that's a farce), scores on regents exams, number of students graduating, number of students accepted to 4 year colleges.

I like the methodology used for the rankings on this website New York Public School Rankings slightly more.

[suzook]

Originally Posted by Jdawg8181

Why rank them?

Wheatley has bad & good students, Wheatley has bad & good teachers
Wyandanch has bad & good students, Wyandanch has bad & good teachers

Every school has students who will do well and others who will do poorly....teachers who can teach, and teachers who can't. It is so silly how much emphasis is put on ranking.

If you teach your kids to value education from an early age, they will put forth an effort and most likely succeed...whether they are going to Wyandanch or Wheatley.

I agree 100%. people on LI are way too interested in school ratings. They should put half the time keeeping on top of their kids as they do worrying about where the school dist is rated.

[Jdawg8181]

Originally Posted by dman72

The best way would be combination of factors: SAT scores, scores on AP tests (NOT the # of students taking the exams, that's a farce), scores on regents exams, number of students graduating, number of students accepted to 4 year colleges.

I like the methodology used for the rankings on this website New York Public School Rankings slightly more.

I agree.

The problem w/ measuring # of students taking the exams is that some schools have a very small population while others are large. You can't compare a district like Fisher's Island or something to Sachem. Obviously more students in Sachem would be taking the exams than in Fisher's Island.