Immigrant stabbed to death...yet kept from the news (Westbury: law, legally)

[Johninwestbury]

Originally Posted by Egobop

What is sad and disturbing is the fact that people are immediately assuming that people are illegal aliens without any proof that they really are. I actually do believe that something should be done about illegal immigration but feel that this story does not have anything to do with illegal immigration at all.

Not only do we not know the citizenship of the people involved but we also do not know the motive for the crime. It very well could have been a robbery gone bad or perhaps there was an argument that took place previously or one of thousands of other scenarios could have taken place. To start speculating that this was illegal immigrant gang activity is not right at all.

I know the area that kid was killed, there's gang tags all over the place. Go and take a look for yourself. Or do you want me to show you the pictures?

[TeamExit]

Originally Posted by Johninwestbury

V.O.I.A.C. Victims of Illegal Alien Crime
The facts are illegals cause alot of crime. Gang attacks in particular, MS-13 and Surenos are often made up of illegals. MS-13 got its start from El Salvadorian illegals that were deported.
WE HAVE A GANG PROBLEM IN WESTBURY. WE HAVE A GANG PROBLEM IN WESTBURY. But nobody is listening. All communities who have illegal aliens often are hotbeds of MS-13 and Surenos (among others like 18th street) gang activity. I'm really sick and tired of the apathy here and in this town. How many more ppl have to die before our overpaid cops actually get off their behinds and lock up these savages?

i know all about it bro, i grew up and lived in brentwood and bayshore for just about the last 19 years, u dont have to tell me what kind of things these gangs do. but that doesnt make it right to refer to any hispanic as an illegal or an immigrant. unless u are native american, you come from a family of immigrants yourself.

you are complaining that there wasnt enough news coverage on this cuz the guys that did it werent white, but im sure if the victim was white you would be complaining that there wasnt enough coverage because the victim was white. fact is a hate crime is gonna cause more uproar than one thats not, no matter which race is doing what.

[Johninwestbury]

Originally Posted by TeamExit

i know all about it bro, i grew up and lived in brentwood and bayshore for just about the last 19 years, u dont have to tell me what kind of things these gangs do. but that doesnt make it right to refer to any hispanic as an illegal or an immigrant. unless u are native american, you come from a family of immigrants yourself.

you are complaining that there wasnt enough news coverage on this cuz the guys that did it werent white, but im sure if the victim was white you would be complaining that there wasnt enough coverage because the victim was white. fact is a hate crime is gonna cause more uproar than one thats not, no matter which race is doing what.

Well its sad that Hate crimes overshadow the many other horrible crimes that occur here on LI. I'm actually more upset that NCPD and the village have failed to do much to stop the gangs. Then again, in Suffolk it aint much better in Brentwood and Bay Shore.
Leaving out immigration status, LI has serious gang problems that are ignored. MS-13, Surenos, 18th street, Bloods, Crips, it's out of control. NYPD has done a much better job controlling the gangs, despite getting paid half of what the cops make out here.
I guess all the trash got thrown out of the city and found they could do their business here.

[nancy thereader]

Thank you for your post, Anthony.

[Smash255]

Originally Posted by Johninwestbury

V.O.I.A.C. Victims of Illegal Alien Crime
The facts are illegals cause alot of crime. Gang attacks in particular, MS-13 and Surenos are often made up of illegals. MS-13 got its start from El Salvadorian illegals that were deported.
WE HAVE A GANG PROBLEM IN WESTBURY. WE HAVE A GANG PROBLEM IN WESTBURY. But nobody is listening. All communities who have illegal aliens often are hotbeds of MS-13 and Surenos (among others like 18th street) gang activity. I'm really sick and tired of the apathy here and in this town. How many more ppl have to die before our overpaid cops actually get off their behinds and lock up these savages?

Of course this is a tragedy. However, you have no evidence that the people who committed this horrendous act were in a gang or were illegal, yet you make the claims like its a fact. Yes, the area does have gang tags around, but that does not mean that every crime committed in an area where gangs exist are caused by gangs. And yes, many members of the gangs you mentioned are illegals, however, many of those gang members are legal as well.

Maybe when we learn all the facts of this case you will be right and this act was caused by illegals in a gang. However, you shouldn't go attributing this act to gangs or illegals until the facts themselves show that to be the case, which is something we just don't know yet. On top of that your whole premise of this not being covered was just utterly wrong.

[WJFM]

Did anyone find any more facts about this murder? Were the people who stabbed the teenager part of a gang?

[Johninwestbury]

Originally Posted by WJFM

Did anyone find any more facts about this murder? Were the people who stabbed the teenager part of a gang?

Sadly, nope. It probably won't be followed up like the Patchogue attack.

[sean sean sean sean]

It's moronic to assume that the victim was an illegal immigrant....but people rarely get killed walking down the street for no reason. If this poor kid wasn't involved in any nonsense (doesn't sound like he was), this killing might be gang related...illegal immigrant gang or otherwise. But then again, maybe not...with no witnesses it's doubtful we'll ever know. Weren't there just a string of murders/assaults out in Brentwood (I apologize if I got the wrong town, I'm going off my flaky memory here) where the victims were killed/attacked in a similar manner, by MS-13 gang members simply because they were black and possible Blood or Crip gang members?

I remember reading this in the paper last week and the last paragraph of the article was really brutal...

Rosales' girlfriend, Rebecca Castro, 16, said she'd sit at the court long past dark to watch him play, holding his necklace he gave her for safekeeping. Now the court serves as a reminder of his violent end, she said, like the street where they first kissed, around the corner from the place where he was killed.

[Johninwestbury]

Originally Posted by sean sean sean sean

It's moronic to assume that the victim was an illegal immigrant....but people rarely get killed walking down the street for no reason. If this poor kid wasn't involved in any nonsense (doesn't sound like he was), this killing might be gang related...illegal immigrant gang or otherwise. But then again, maybe not...with no witnesses it's doubtful we'll ever know. Weren't there just a string of murders/assaults out in Brentwood (I apologize if I got the wrong town, I'm going off my flaky memory here) where the victims were killed/attacked in a similar manner, by MS-13 gang members simply because they were black and possible Blood or Crip gang members?

I remember reading this in the paper last week and the last paragraph of the article was really brutal...

I didn't assume the victim was an illegal, but that the savages who killed him were, as MS-13 and Surenos are made up largely of illegals.
That paragraph you read definately made me feel very sad. This is so tragic, it happens way too often, and no one seems to be doing anything to put a stop to it.

[Jrprofess]

Originally Posted by Johninwestbury

The fact is there is alot of gang activity in Westbury, mainly MS-13 and Surenos. Look around and you'll see tags everywhere. Researching these gangs shows they are generally made up of illegals. The Westbury IN-ACTION party is totally oblivious to the growing problems here, despite all the signs. I cant believe Cavallaro got elected, but Strada and the In-Action party made threats to folks who got involved with the opposition, one lady I know got her brake line cut when she put up a sign for Joe Masiello.

You are terrible at apologies. This is one of those "my bad" sorry for the thread moments. And if this woman's brake line was really cut (meaning they were okay essentially killing her), I find it hard to believe this did not make the news given Newsday will run an instance of a dead ant being in a yogurt container if the "victim" raises a stink.